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post #76 of 331
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I got the Philips tunes in my head however~

 

I love Claude Pelouse's Paradise - couldn't get it out of my head for days after hearing it here.

post #77 of 331
Catched Gold with DRAGONFLY-USB-DAC + BOSE QC15
MP3 Artifacts(128) was the hardest part for me (silver part)
Gold part was easier than silver part.
Would like to see people, who hear the difference between MP3-320 and Flac

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Edited by Hubert481 - 2/23/14 at 9:41pm
post #78 of 331

It was actually easier to hear the differences in the kbps section (also in all the rest) with the HD800 than with the ES3X.


Edited by pila405 - 2/21/14 at 2:24pm
post #79 of 331
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The right answer is bitrate, what PHILIPS call MP3 Artifacts. It just seems impossible for me and it certainly makes me wonder why. I did find the other challenges to be reasonably easy, but to me bitrate is like running into a brick wall.

 

Standing in front of that wall myself.

Good to know I'm not alone! :beerchug:

post #80 of 331
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I can not, for the life of me, get passed the Silver reverberation test. What parts or instruments are you paying attention to specifically to identify when reverberation exists and when it doesn't?

 

Finally. I was working on that test for a couple hours. Finally started zeroing in on the plucking of the bass to find my way through it.

Congratulations! I too found it challenging but was able to nail it without any errors. However, I really took myself the time needed before giving each of my answers. Anyway, to me the reverberation challenge is still nowhere near the “MP3 Artefacts” challenge. So, how did you do with that?

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I was feeling so frustrated about the "Details - MP3 Artefacts" challenge on the "Silver Ears" level that wrote the below e-mail to the e-mail address found on the “Golden Ears” site, However, I haven't received any reply, and I sort of doubt that I ever will. Anyway if I do receive a reply I'll publish it here.

 

“Dear PHILIPS - Golden Ears,

 

First of all thank you for the very entertaining ”Golden Ears Challenge”! I can see that a rather large percentage of people have been able to make it all the way to “Golden Ears”. Fantastic! However, I for one probably never will as I’m too old to hear any frequencies above about 11 kHz. Nevertheless I would really like to be able to access the challenges of the “Golden Ears” level. However, I’m unable to because I can’t detect the 112 Kbps bitrate and above in the “Details – MP3 Artifacts” challenge on the "Silver Ears" level. So my first question is if there’s any way I can be granted access to the “Golden Ears” level without passing the “Details – MP3 Artifacts” challenge?

 

I should mention that I find all the other challenges of the “Silver Ears” level realatively easy to pass. I even verified it tonight by doing them all again, but the “Details – MP3 Artifacts” challenge is just impossible for me. Considering how many people have been able to reach “Golden Ears” I certainly don’t find it unlikely that the reason for my shortcoming is indeed my hearing, but in that light I’m also puzzled by the fact that I find all the other challenges of the “Silver Ears” level rather easy to pass. Could an alternate explanation possibly be that contemporary hardware and software is capable of converting also relatively low bitrates to a very fine analog signal? I’ve been contemplating monitoring the USB bitrate output using third party software just to be able to reach the “Golden Ears” challenges, but I just feel it wouldn’t be right, and I’m also sure this hasn’t been the method of the 263 people who were able to get their “Golden Ears”.

 

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!”

post #82 of 331
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Congratulations! I too found it challenging but was able to nail it without any errors. However, I really took myself the time needed before giving each of my answers. Anyway, to me the reverberation challenge is still nowhere near the “MP3 Artefacts” challenge. So, how did you do with that?

I don't remember what I was listening to at the time, but I know I was able to get by it pretty quickly. Now I'm stuck on the Timber: Frequency Bands on Music part in the golden section. Anyone have problem with this one?

post #83 of 331

All those frustrated with the MP3 challenge or the reverberation one, wait until you get to the EQ challenge in the gold section...

post #84 of 331
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Anyway, to me the reverberation challenge is still nowhere near the “MP3 Artefacts” challenge. So, how did you do with that?

 

 

This is from memory, but I recall focusing my attention on the instrument (was it a bass?) on the right channel. 

post #85 of 331
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Originally Posted by Aero Dynamik View Post
 

Anyway, to me the reverberation challenge is still nowhere near the “MP3 Artefacts” challenge. So, how did you do with that?

 

 

This is from memory, but I recall focusing my attention on the instrument (was it a bass?) on the right channel. 

Are you referring to the "MP3 Artefacts" or the "Reverberation" challenge?

post #86 of 331
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I was feeling so frustrated about the "Details - MP3 Artefacts" challenge on the "Silver Ears" level that wrote the below e-mail to the e-mail address found on the “Golden Ears” site, However, I haven't received any reply, and I sort of doubt that I ever will. Anyway if I do receive a reply I'll publish it here.

MP3 Artifacts" challenge only have 4 questions

Just keep guessing if you lucky u will pass it

post #87 of 331
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MP3 Artifacts" challenge only have 4 questions

Just keep guessing if you lucky u will pass it

Those are some bad odds though, considering you drop a level when you get one wrong.

post #88 of 331

Well, I tried this test and beforehand I thought that I would fail miserably since I have through HF learned not to trust my own hearing or anyone else for that matter :-)

 

To my surprise, I breezed through basic level, bronze and silver level, albeit it took a few hours. Now I'm stuck at one last test in Golden Ears, passed all others with flying colors and I'm 93% at this stage, but the Timbre "Frequency bands on music" is truly killing me and I started to yell at my wife and deny to take the dog for a walk and she peed on the floor because I was stuck with this last test...The dog then peed on the floor, not my wife since I have taught her to use the toilet..

 

Anyway, I thought I got it but then I screwed up on the last, the sixth, question and from there it all went horrible wrong.. since I started to question my judgement or maybe my ears are not tuned to one specific question that seems to keep popping up.. frequency area..

 

Anyhow, fun stuff and I will pass it.. the last test. I just need to practice it which I didn't do at any of the other levels.

 

I wonder how many would run through it all if Phillips had increased bitrate test and low/high frequency test by 10-20%. 

 

By the way I'm using Etymotic HF5 straight from laptop HO.

post #89 of 331
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Originally Posted by Aero Dynamik View Post
 

Are you referring to the "MP3 Artefacts" or the "Reverberation" challenge?

 

The reverb.

post #90 of 331
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Originally Posted by Jupiterknight View Post
 

Well, I tried this test and beforehand I thought that I would fail miserably since I have through HF learned not to trust my own hearing or anyone else for that matter :-)

 

To my surprise, I breezed through basic level, bronze and silver level, albeit it took a few hours. Now I'm stuck at one last test in Golden Ears, passed all others with flying colors and I'm 93% at this stage, but the Timbre "Frequency bands on music" is truly killing me and I started to yell at my wife and deny to take the dog for a walk and she peed on the floor because I was stuck with this last test...The dog then peed on the floor, not my wife since I have taught her to use the toilet..

 

Anyway, I thought I got it but then I screwed up on the last, the sixth, question and from there it all went horrible wrong.. since I started to question my judgement or maybe my ears are not tuned to one specific question that seems to keep popping up.. frequency area..

 

Anyhow, fun stuff and I will pass it.. the last test. I just need to practice it which I didn't do at any of the other levels.

 

I wonder how many would run through it all if Phillips had increased bitrate test and low/high frequency test by 10-20%. 

 

By the way I'm using Etymotic HF5 straight from laptop HO.

Hilarious! Wish you luck and hope that you get your "Golden Ears"!

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