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post #16 of 20
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Originally Posted by manbear View Post
 

I don't think you can make some people notice (certainly not care about) sound quality. Just can't. They have rocks for brains or something. 

I remember when I was younger, I'd walk past the TV section of Sears with my parents when we went to the mall. I'd say, "This TV has a greenish tinge, this TV has a reddish tinge." They would say "Looks the same to me. How can you even tell?"

 

Apart from music, I didn't start noticing little differences till I became very close friends with a clinically OCD typesetter. Once you can notice, it's hard to forget to. Eventually, I force myself to accept things that are only very good, but not without feeling a little disappointed.

post #17 of 20

I seriously doubt that artifacting adds to anyone's enjoyment of music. Compression artifacting creates some pretty unappealing non-organic noise. But with most modern codecs, there is a point where the bit rate achieves audible transparency. At that point, I can totally see anyone who has listened carefully saying, "It doesn't matter one way or the other." High bit rate lossy with a current codec is pretty much interchangeable with lossless.

post #18 of 20
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post
 

All things being equal you should be able to tell the difference.  the 128 sounds pretty compressed meaning very little depth or layering within the frequency range versus 328 or even 256.

 

I don't know what you mean by depth and layering, I'm afraid. Low bit rate compressed audio has a rolled off high end and artifacts where there is insufficient bit rate to render the sound, so it chokes and replaces it with digital gorf. The high end rolloff is subtle, but there's nothing subtle about artifacting. It's either there or it isn't- no layers or depth to it.

 

It really helps to know what you're listening for. There used to be a page full of examples of various digital artifacts, but I've lost track of it.

post #19 of 20

Just that higher bit rates sound more 3D  to me.  Not sure how else to describe what I'm hearing

post #20 of 20

Expectation bias?

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