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Introducing myself and recommendations please

post #1 of 18
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Hello everybody,

I generally go by my nickname Bean and am in my mid 30s. Originally from Switzerland I now move about the world every couple of years, due to my wife's job.

Enough of me for now and let's talk audio.

I'm looking for a new headset incl. mic for when I'm on the road. I intend to power it through my Nexus 4 and don't plan to carry an amp around with me.

To narrow down the field here's what I usually listen to: rock, acoustic soul, jazz, some old school hip hop, the occasional classic orchestral and electric beat (mostly electro swing).

I already have a set of the original Grado SR80 and waiting saving for my Dynaudio speakers. I like the Grados but only use them at home due to their open design.

Now as said I'm looking for something new for the road. Should be closed (not anoy bystander's), have a mic for those nasty interrupting calls, detachable one sided cable.

Sound wise I like my SR80 though it could use a bit more bass when not used properly amped.

So far I considered the Momentum (bit hard on the budget and the head band could be more comfy).
Custom One Pro with a different inline-mic cable (still need to find a place to test hear them)
Amperior and Momentum on-ear are a bit cheaper but wasn't overly impressed by the sound.

Thanks for all the reading and happy suggesting.

Regards and thanks in advance Bean
post #2 of 18

I'd recommend the V-MODA M-100 with the ControlTalk cable... or that BoomPro one if you want to look like a d-bag.

post #3 of 18
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How is the bass of the M100 compared to the Momentum? I'm currently in a store and just listened around 1h with the Momentum to my music of the phone and it has a tad too much bass. (Had to tone it down).
Unfortunately they don't have any V-Moda or Beyerdynamics here.
post #4 of 18
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How is the bass of the M100 compared to the Momentum? I'm currently in a store and just listened around 1h with the Momentum to my music of the phone and it has a tad too much bass. (Had to tone it down).
Unfortunately they don't have any V-Moda or Beyerdynamics here.

From what little I have listened to the Momentum I would say it has a bit less, but probably not enough of a difference to differentiate between the two if you aren't A/Bing. It might not be for you, but it might be; that's the way it was for me before mine got stolen.

post #5 of 18
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Thanks for your input and sorry for your loss.
post #6 of 18
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Thanks for your input and sorry for your loss.

It was very hard for me (;_;).

post #7 of 18
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Just had a listen to the COP and they do sound very nice in my opinion.
Bass on the 2nd to lowest setting is precise but not overwhelming.
They are a bit bulky for every day use but very comfortable.
I also took the chance and tested the 1350s, the non replaceable cord is a no go for me though. They sound very nice compared to my SR80s considering the closed design.

Still open for suggestions.
I ruled out the V-Moda's for now as they aren't available locally and seem to be very similar to the Momentums which I would prefer style wise.
post #8 of 18
Thread Starter 

Hello again Head-Fi,

 

instead off starting all over again I thought I'll reuse my initial thread - hope that's fine with everyone (else let me know).

 

So beginning of last year I chose the Momentums in the end as the suited the overall package the best and I managed to get a good deal on them.

 

Now one year later after fixing my Grado80 a few times I'm looking to upgrade those - they will be strictly for home use.

 

My budget is 3-500$ (if an amp is needed I can stretch it within means). Please see the first post regarding my intended use.

 

I liked my Grados though I know it could be better, so I came up with a short list that I'd like to narrow down a bit more - then next time I'm back in Switzerland I'll go to a specialist store to test them (there's none around here). So here goes (listed by price):

HiFiMan HE-400, Beyerdynamic DT 880 Premium, Sennheiser HD 650, Shure SRH1840, HiFiMan HE-500.

 

Are the higher priced ones worth the extra cash?

 

Regarding amp, if needed, I considered the FiiO E12 or Topping NX2 (just in case I do want to listen from a source other than my PC).

 

I'm open to suggestions and looking forward to your experience.

 

PS: I have a relatively narrow head.

post #9 of 18
The HE-500s would not be my choice to use with a portable headphone amp. They are more difficult to drive than most headphones.
post #10 of 18

For what it's worth, I liked the HD 650 a lot more than the DT 880 (despite the fact that I generally prefer neutral headphones), and the HE400i (never heard the HE-400) more than both. I only used a Schiit Fulla to drive them. Owned a Magni 2 Uber before that. I honestly do think some of the more expensive headphones are worth it, but only some of them. It may also be worth it to get an affordable full-size amp (like a Magni 2) instead of a portable one.

post #11 of 18
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honestly regarding the amp I haven't done much research yet as I'll only need it for some of the choices, if I do go for one that needs it I'll go more in depth.
Despite the fact that I'm content with my Momentums the HD 600 (haven't listened to the 650 yet) didn't overwhelm me in anyway. From reviews and specs so far I'm leaning towards the Shure 1840.
@Music Alchemist: I missed out on typing the 'i' wink.gif Can you give a description of the difference of the 'regular' headphones compared to the planar magnetic ones (especially regarding soundstage), so far never heard these. The HE-400i is very borderline on my budget and considering the fact I'll need an amp to go with that one it really needs to have a good advantage over the others.

@cl4145: I'm not dead st on the amp, it would be nice but not necessary. Will get my Dynaudios for the livingroom (next to the terrace) eventually once I made up my mind if I should step up to the new Focus XD, despite twice the price.
Edited by Bean Bandit - 6/7/15 at 9:05am
post #12 of 18
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honestly regarding the amp I haven't done much research yet as I'll only need it for some of the choices, if I do go for one that needs it I'll go more in depth.
Despite the fact that I'm content with my Momentums the HD 600 (haven't listened to the 650 yet) didn't overwhelm me in anyway. From reviews and specs so far I'm leaning towards the Shure 1840.
@Music Alchemist: I missed out on typing the 'i' wink.gif Can you give a description of the difference of the 'regular' headphones compared to the planar magnetic ones, so far never heard these. The HE-400i is very borderline on my budget and considering the fact I'll need an amp to go with that one it really needs to have a good advantage over the others.

 

If you were not impressed by the HD 600, you might not like the HD 650...but I haven't heard the HD 600 yet. Oh, so you were interested in the HE400i in the first place. You could get it used for around $370. Some people are even willing to do trades plus cash, which could give you more leeway. And like I mentioned, I drove it with a $79 Fulla. I liked the HE400i more than most headphones I have heard. (But I like the Yamaha HPH-MT220 even more, and it's just $150.) It's kinda hard to describe how the HE400i sounds. To me, it sounded big and impressive. The tone and "size" of instruments was just more noticeable. Not a huge soundstage, but not small either. (The one I had had the grill mod, so its soundstage was apparently larger than stock.) The bass is fairly linear, but didn't have as much punch and impact as I expected. (May have more with a better amp. I dunno.) There was more of a bass presence instead -- like it was integrated with the rest of the sound, if that makes sense. I don't think it's so much about different types of headphones as it is just different headphones. I mean, dynamic headphones have all sorts of sound signatures. Same is true for planar magnetics. (However, the HE400i is the only planar magnetic headphone I have heard so far.)

post #13 of 18
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thanks for the input, hopefully I can track down a HiFiMan to test listen and go from there. I'm curious how they sound, I pretty confident I'll like the Shure from what I've read as many have compared it to the T1 and I used that last time I was in the shop for reference.
post #14 of 18
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thanks for the input, hopefully I can track down a HiFiMan to test listen and go from there. I'm curious how they sound, I pretty confident I'll like the Shure from what I've read as many have compared it to the T1 and I used that last time I was in the shop for reference.

 

I haven't heard the Shure, but you might want to take a look at this.

post #15 of 18
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skimmed over that link, I never looked that close into data but it seems to me he's focusing too much on the science. He fails a lot of good headphones including the HE-400, T1 and more... I'm not sure if his standard is just way higher than most or if something else is going on. Also it seems he sourced lot of the graphs from the net... sometimes he didn't get them either. So even if he's right I'll have to take any of his conclusions with a spoon rather than a pinch of salt. Last but not least he's comparing few hundred dollar headphones with few thousand dollar ones.
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