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post #676 of 823

Has Focal said anything about plans to increase the cavity for the ear?

 

Long time since I have owned these and while they sounded great I couldn't wear them for more than 30mins before my ears started to ache. A lot of people had the same problems and returned them.

 

The Spirit One S suggests they are sticking with the same design but I don't know if they made the cavity for the ear larger.

post #677 of 823
Looks like they've kept the same earpad design but made the pads softer which should improve comfort somewhat. Ive been slowly breaking my spirit pros in. At first they were uncomfortable but ive been gradually stretching the headband and the pads which has made them wearable for extended periods. I doubt they'll ever be really comfortable though.
post #678 of 823

Just received my cheapo warehouse deal Spirit Pros from Amazon Italy. Shipped to Scotland, paid with a German credit card. Kudos to Amazon.;)

Arrived safe and sound in great condition. I gave them a listen from my DX90 with some well know and recently listened to tracks and I must say I'm very impressed.

Same amount of detail (maybe even more) as my BeoPlay H6, stronger bass (if present in the recording) while sounding very clean and relaxing.

Excellent treble without sounding harsh at all. The fit is comfortable enough, even when wearing glasses. No problems after two hours of listening.

 

Will cross examine the sound with the Beoplay H6 tomorrow and decide then which pair to keep.

post #679 of 823
Thread Starter 

Congrats man. :beerchug: I also found the Spirit Pros to have more resolution than the H6 (more details).

 

I've had the Spirit Pros for 7 months now and they've broken in nicely. They're way more comfortable than at the beginning. I say give them time and be patient. If they're uncomfortable wear your 2nd headphone for a few days and give your head a break and come back to the FSP when you feel like it.

post #680 of 823
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Originally Posted by pOOB73 View Post

Just received my cheapo warehouse deal Spirit Pros from Amazon Italy. Shipped to Scotland, paid with a German credit card. Kudos to Amazon.wink.gif
Arrived safe and sound in great condition. I gave them a listen from my DX90 with some well know and recently listened to tracks and I must say I'm very impressed.
Same amount of detail (maybe even more) as my BeoPlay H6, stronger bass (if present in the recording) while sounding very clean and relaxing.
Excellent treble without sounding harsh at all. The fit is comfortable enough, even when wearing glasses. No problems after two hours of listening.

Will cross examine the sound with the Beoplay H6 tomorrow and decide then which pair to keep.
I look forward to the comparison as I've been interested in the H6 for a while, I'm wondering if you can tell me if the H6 headband is longer or shorter than the spirit pros at maximum extension? The spirit pros headband is just big enough for my head at full extension so if the H6 is any shorter I'll know to pass on it. Thanks!
post #681 of 823
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I look forward to the comparison as I've been interested in the H6 for a while, I'm wondering if you can tell me if the H6 headband is longer or shorter than the spirit pros at maximum extension? The spirit pros headband is just big enough for my head at full extension so if the H6 is any shorter I'll know to pass on it. Thanks!

I would say they're almost identical. The H6 looks like it's a tad longer (lower center of cups), so would be worth a try.

 

 

As for the sound I can confirm my first impressions: 

 

FSP has more detail, stronger bass (if present in the recording), snappier/faster response (for drums, e.g.), is more dynamic. Great extension to highs and lows without ever sounding harsh.

I did a side by side comparison but had to adapt the volume manually. I had the impression that when switching from FSP to H6, the voices were a bit more laid back and the highs sounded a bit harsher on the H6. These are not great differences and they may vary with the recording and the kind of music you are listening to, but looking at the price, the FSP is the clear winner.

It's simply amazing what kind of sound quality you get nowerdays for relatively little money.

 

Résumé: The FSP sounds better, although it's not as comfortable as the H6, but still comfortable enough for my needs.

 

I think I'll put up the H6 for sale soon.:)

post #682 of 823
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Originally Posted by pOOB73 View Post

I would say they're almost identical. The H6 looks like it's a tad longer (lower center of cups), so would be worth a try.




As for the sound I can confirm my first impressions: 

FSP has more detail, stronger bass (if present in the recording), snappier/faster response (for drums, e.g.), is more dynamic. Great extension to highs and lows without ever sounding harsh.
I did a side by side comparison but had to adapt the volume manually. I had the impression that when switching from FSP to H6, the voices were a bit more laid back and the highs sounded a bit harsher on the H6. These are not great differences and they may vary with the recording and the kind of music you are listening to, but looking at the price, the FSP is the clear winner.
It's simply amazing what kind of sound quality you get nowerdays for relatively little money.

Résumé: The FSP sounds better, although it's not as comfortable as the H6, but still comfortable enough for my needs.

I think I'll put up the H6 for sale soon.smily_headphones1.gif
Thanks for the picture! Are you able to put up a picture to show the differences in the sizes of the earpad cavities? Is the H6 much bigger?
Also, do the H6s mids sound recessed at all and would you say its brighter than the spirit pro? Thanks again!
Edited by chailee80 - 8/11/14 at 10:43am
post #683 of 823
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Thanks for the picture! Are you able to put up a picture to show the differences in the sizes of the earpad cavities? Is the H6 much bigger?
Also, do the H6s mids sound recessed at all and would you say its brighter than the spirit pro? Thanks again!

 

Innerfidelity has measurements for both.

 

Beoplay H6

 

Focal Spirit Pro

post #684 of 823
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Originally Posted by chailee80 View Post


Thanks for the picture! Are you able to put up a picture to show the differences in the sizes of the earpad cavities? Is the H6 much bigger?
Also, do the H6s mids sound recessed at all and would you say its brighter than the spirit pro? Thanks again!

The cavities are as follows.. I've tried not to squeeze the foam too much. Measured with a calliper:

 

FSP: 4,8cm high, 4 cm wide
H6: 5,2cm high, 5cm wide

 

My ears just about fit into the FSP while on the H6 they don't touch the rim at all. It's not uncomfortable on the FSP, but it's more spacious on the H6 for sure.

 

About the sound, yes that's what I think i described earlier: The voices (mids) sound more recessed on the H6. I don't think the H6 is brighter than the FSP, only sounds slightly more harsh at higher volumes.


Edited by pOOB73 - 8/11/14 at 3:23pm
post #685 of 823

I'm pretty interested in picking up a Focal Spirit One S, I was a big fan of the Classic (which I had to return because of a faulty cable) and the only review of the One S I've seen so far has it at a similar quality (with different tuning) as the Classic plus a super nice carrying case for a much lower price. Has anyone else tried both the Classic and the One S? Any thoughts on the One S in general? There doesn't seem to be much info at all about these headphones on the internet.

post #686 of 823
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Originally Posted by Taowolf51 View Post
 

I'm pretty interested in picking up a Focal Spirit One S, I was a big fan of the Classic (which I had to return because of a faulty cable) and the only review of the One S I've seen so far has it at a similar quality (with different tuning) as the Classic plus a super nice carrying case for a much lower price. Has anyone else tried both the Classic and the One S? Any thoughts on the One S in general? There doesn't seem to be much info at all about these headphones on the internet.

 

Focal has kind of dropped of the map in the headphone world. While their headphones were praised the majority found them to be uncomfortable due to high clamping force and were unable to fit their ears inside the tiny ear pads. Until, Focal overhauls their design they won't be relevant. Compare this thread to the HP50 thread and you can see a huge difference in number of responses.

post #687 of 823

I haven't read every post in this thread, but just wanted to stop by and say that the FSP will be my next purchase, along with the DX90!

post #688 of 823
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I haven't read every post in this thread, but just wanted to stop by and say that the FSP will be my next purchase, along with the DX90!

Excellent choice. wink.gif
post #689 of 823
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Originally Posted by Dreyka View Post
 

 

Focal has kind of dropped of the map in the headphone world. While their headphones were praised the majority found them to be uncomfortable due to high clamping force and were unable to fit their ears inside the tiny ear pads. Until, Focal overhauls their design they won't be relevant. Compare this thread to the HP50 thread and you can see a huge difference in number of responses.


Well Focal Spirit One S is the most comfortable one so far with bigger circumference than the original Sprit One and uses even more comfortable/better pads than Spirit Pro and Classic while costing less, I guess they aren't listening at all. It's not like they can suddenly change pads on Pro/Classic just like that.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 8/11/14 at 4:59pm
post #690 of 823
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Originally Posted by Dreyka View Post
 

 

Focal has kind of dropped of the map in the headphone world. While their headphones were praised the majority found them to be uncomfortable due to high clamping force and were unable to fit their ears inside the tiny ear pads. Until, Focal overhauls their design they won't be relevant. Compare this thread to the HP50 thread and you can see a huge difference in number of responses.

I had the chance to compare the HP50 with the Spirit Classic side by side and was able to wear the Classics for far longer and found them to be more comfortable. The HP50's had better and more open earpads, but a cripplingly uncomfortable headband because of the design that causes the headband to only be in contact with a very small part of the top of your head, causing a strong hot spot and headaches. The Classic didn't suffer from this issue, and while it was less comfortable with its earpads, the comfort overall was definitely better than the HP50 on my head.

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