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post #1066 of 1751
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Originally Posted by dakanao View Post
 

And do you have a dedicated DAC, or just onboard DAC?

 

When I owned the FSP, I had a Schiit Magni 2 Uber amp and Modi 2 DAC. Now, I own a Schiit Fulla amp/DAC.

 

But like I mentioned, there was little to no difference with or without.

post #1067 of 1751

Just ordered the Spirit Pro 3 hours ago... Should arrive Thursday 

 

Hope they will be a clear upgrade to my CALs!


Edited by dakanao - 4/14/15 at 7:31am
post #1068 of 1751
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Just ordered the Spirit Pro 3 hours ago... Should arrive Thursday 

 

Hope they will be a clear upgrade to my CALs!

Not sure about the comparison with the CALs...but I haven't heard anything as coherent, neutral and detailed - apart from possibly the HD600's. But they're open and not sure they're as natural. Let us know how you find them.

post #1069 of 1751
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I haven't heard anything as coherent, neutral and detailed - apart from possibly the HD600's. But they're open and not sure they're as natural.

 

Same here. (Though I have yet to hear the HD 600.)

 

I'm pretty sure some of the much-higher-end headphones beat the FSP in every way, though.

post #1070 of 1751
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Same here. (Though I have yet to hear the HD 600.)

 

I'm pretty sure some of the much-higher-end headphones beat the FSP in every way, though.

You're right. They should. But some people have compared them favourably with much more expensive headphones. Depends what you're pairing them with I guess.

 

I'm not convinced that with the portable equipment I have I can squeeze much better out. I'd have to upgrade to an Astell & Kern etc. How far do you go? Bear in mind that you're always in the hands of the original engineer/producer and some tracks aren't that well produced.

post #1071 of 1751
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You're right. They should. But some people have compared them favourably with much more expensive headphones. Depends what you're pairing them with I guess.

 

I'm not convinced that with the portable equipment I have I can squeeze much better out. I'd have to upgrade to an Astell & Kern etc. How far do you go? Bear in mind that you're always in the hands of the original engineer/producer and some tracks aren't that well produced.

 

Yeah, I have too. I'm just saying that some of the ultra-high-end headphones (like the STAX SR-009) are bound to be on another level.

 

As mentioned in one of my recent posts, I compared a Schiit Magni 2 Uber amp and Modi 2 DAC to plugging directly into my laptop's headphone jack, and there was little to no difference in sound with the Spirit Pro. The only real difference I noticed is that the bass seemed stronger on the amp, but I didn't test it under controlled conditions.

post #1072 of 1751

So, the Spirit Pro arrived... Comfort is good, but I only have them 6 minutes on or so :p

 

 

The sound.... Well, to my ears, they sound kind of artificial... I like the sound signature, don't get me wrong, but they sound unrealistic to me. I don't know if this will improve with burn-in... Do you guys had the same expierence, and/or did they improve with burn in?

 

For example, my Creative Aurvana Live sounds clearly more realistic. But I definitely like the bass of the Spirit Pros, it's balanced and VERY tight.

 

It's just that the mids and highs sound unnatural as of right now...

post #1073 of 1751
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Originally Posted by dakanao View Post
 

So, the Spirit Pro arrived... Comfort is good, but I only have them 6 minutes on or so :p

 

 

The sound.... Well, to my ears, they sound kind of artificial... I like the sound signature, don't get me wrong, but they sound unrealistic to me. I don't know if this will improve with burn-in... Do you guys had the same expierence, and/or did they improve with burn in?

 

For example, my Creative Aurvana Live sounds clearly more realistic. But I definitely like the bass of the Spirit Pros, it's balanced and VERY tight.

 

It's just that the mids and highs sound unnatural as of right now...

Unrealistic? Interesting. I sometimes find the treble (especially cymbals) a bit too much but I put that down to the original mix as it doesn't always occur. Comparing them briefly as I did this morning with the open back HD600's, you may have a point. I did find the 600's a tad more realistic across the spectrum. Could be that the Pros are closed back trying to be open - if that's possible?

post #1074 of 1751
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Originally Posted by dakanao View Post
 

So, the Spirit Pro arrived... Comfort is good, but I only have them 6 minutes on or so :p

 

The sound.... Well, to my ears, they sound kind of artificial... I like the sound signature, don't get me wrong, but they sound unrealistic to me. I don't know if this will improve with burn-in... Do you guys had the same expierence, and/or did they improve with burn in?

 

For example, my Creative Aurvana Live sounds clearly more realistic. But I definitely like the bass of the Spirit Pros, it's balanced and VERY tight.

 

It's just that the mids and highs sound unnatural as of right now...

 

Sounded very natural and realistic to me, and one of my main complaints about many other headphones is how unnatural and artificial they sound. Go figure.

post #1075 of 1751
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Sounded very natural and realistic to me, and one of my main complaints about many other headphones is how unnatural and artificial they sound. Go figure.

Did you expirience an unnatural sound when you first got them?

post #1076 of 1751
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Did you expirience an unnatural sound when you first got them?

 

Not really. The ear pads broke in a little over time, which made the sound more full. If you (carefully! while gripping the inner part, not pushing the outer part) push the ear pads closer to your ears, see how it changes the sound.

 

My reference for natural is how real instruments sound.

 

Which genres of music have you listened to so far? I thought the FSP sounded excellent with all genres.

post #1077 of 1751
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Not really. The ear pads broke in a little over time, which made the sound more full. If you (carefully! while gripping the inner part, not pushing the outer part) push the ear pads closer to your ears, see how it changes the sound.

 

My reference for natural is how real instruments sound.

 

Which genres of music have you listened to so far? I thought the FSP sounded excellent with all genres.

I did, and it improves the sound a bit, but my Creative Aurvana Live still sounds more realistic and clearer

 

The only thing the Spirit Pros do better than the CAL, is the bass and detail.

 

I listen to rap/hiphop btw


Edited by dakanao - 4/15/15 at 8:59am
post #1078 of 1751
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I did, and it improves the sound a bit, but my Creative Aurvana Live still sounds more realistic and clearer

 

The only thing the Spirit Pros do better than the CAL, is the bass and detail.

 

I listen to rap/hiphop btw

 

Only rap? I suggest listening to all the genres of music you can with it to get a better idea of its capabilities. With rap music, I did notice that voices sounded slightly muffled sometimes. But with other genres, like orchestral, metal, rock, jazz, electronic, and so on, I didn't notice anything like that; just that some of the frequencies were slightly recessed. I do think my Sony MDR-7506 has a better sense of clarity than the FSP sometimes.

 

I'm about to listen to my new HIFIMAN HE-400i. Wonder if it will be my new favorite? =D

post #1079 of 1751
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Only rap? I suggest listening to all the genres of music you can with it to get a better idea of its capabilities. With rap music, I did notice that voices sounded slightly muffled sometimes. But with other genres, like orchestral, metal, rock, jazz, electronic, and so on, I didn't notice anything like that; just that some of the frequencies were slightly recessed. I do think my Sony MDR-7506 has a better sense of clarity than the FSP sometimes.

 

I'm about to listen to my new HIFIMAN HE-400i. Wonder if it will be my new favorite? =D

They do sound good with songs that have more treble in the recording. But the emphasis on: ''Good''. 

 

For instance, with the same recording, my Creative Aurvana Live, sound a lot clearer and slightly more realistic as well. The only thing the Spirit pros do better, is the bass and detail retrieval.

post #1080 of 1751
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They do sound good with songs that have more treble in the recording. But the emphasis on: ''Good''. 

 

For instance, with the same recording, my Creative Aurvana Live, sound a lot clearer and slightly more realistic as well. The only thing the Spirit pros do better, is the bass and detail retrieval.

 

Well, that's interesting. I haven't heard that Creative headphone, but maybe I should try it out sometime. (I used to own Creative DAPs.) The FSP and CAL are both featured on InnerFidelity's Wall Of Fame, but the FSP is near the top and the CAL is retired. Perhaps the tonal balance of the CAL just sounds more realistic to you even if the FSP is more neutral. I mean, I thought my old Bose QC15 (which has a lot of boosted bass and treble) sounded more realistic than many neutral-ish studio monitor headphones.

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