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post #17986 of 18055
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Originally Posted by Share2Care View Post

 

Schiit's approach is really refreshing. With that in mind and I am very keen to try out a balanced cable, can anyone suggest a no bull Schiit headphone cable supplier? UK, EU, USA or even RoW. Would be most appreciated.

 

If you don't mind shipping directly from China, I would strongly recommend Venture Electronics. They are well known for making really excellent earbud-style headphones, but they also make high-quality headphone cables and interconnects. $20 or so can get you a balanced cable for more popular headphones, such as Audeze, Sennheiser HD6X0 series, and newer HiFiMan models.

 

P.S. Throw a set of the Monk headphones in the cart for $5 while your at it.

post #17987 of 18055
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post

I don't see how this even remotely applies to power cords as IMO the basic copper wire used by most OEM supplied power cords is more then up to the job and highly unlikely to degrade audio performance as it is not in the signal path. Even audio interconnects are overrated, unless they are defective or made of metal coated paper strands I don't see the miracle of superconducting wires in the audio path. A 0.1 Ohm difference in a line input wire is for all purposes meaningless when one considers that the terminating might be 5 orders of magnitude higher.
As you say, Conductors which introduce enough "noise" are defective. I'd get a refund.

Just to be clear, almost all of the signal current (electrons or holes depending on point of view) coming out of any component that has active devices in it (Transitors, IC, DAC or ADC, so if it has a power cord) comes from the power cord! It is in the signal path, but so is all the house wiring and all the supply lines in the power distribution system.
post #17988 of 18055

Jason,

 

I know you don't like to comment on potential future products, but I'm just curious what your philosophy is on hardware EQ? Is this something you've considered or are opposed to doing? I know this falls in the same category as tone controls on amps, but a separate box for the folks out there who like this feature would be welcome.

post #17989 of 18055
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Originally Posted by fargus View Post
 

Jason,

 

I know you don't like to comment on potential future products, but I'm just curious what your philosophy is on hardware EQ? Is this something you've considered or are opposed to doing? I know this falls in the same category as tone controls on amps, but a separate box for the folks out there who like this feature would be welcome.

 

From last week:

 

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Originally Posted by Jason Stoddard View Post
 

I did an electronic crossover back at Sumo, but I'm not really feeling it, now. It's a VERY specialized piece of gear, probably would sell slower than the old Loki.

 

So my guess would be... probably not!

 

(If you're new to Schiit - Loki was their DSD DAC that proved the point DSD was dead in the water... the first and only run sold r-e-a-l-l-y s-l-o-w-l-y and did not go back into production when sold out.)

 

EDIT: yes, I know a crossover is not precisely an EQ, but they're so close in class it's a moot point...

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Edited by valiant66 - 3/19/17 at 6:18pm
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Originally Posted by PolarBehr View Post


Just to be clear, almost all of the signal current (electrons or holes depending on point of view) coming out of any component that has active devices in it (Transitors, IC, DAC or ADC, so if it has a power cord) comes from the power cord! It is in the signal path, but so is all the house wiring and all the supply lines in the power distribution system.

Only if it's in the signal path of those that seek to listen to unbloated 50/60 Hz hum using an LPS with a toroidal transformer.

post #17991 of 18055

I love my 50Hz hum (60Hz to you foreign types).

I can't do without my 50Hz hum.

 

It adds extra romance to my classical music

It adds bite to my rock.

It shows up any timing errors in the delivered metre of crap rap doggerel  (I utterly refuse to countenance rap as music in any way shape or form).

And, it lets me know when the system is turned on - what's not to like....?

post #17992 of 18055
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Originally Posted by PolarBehr View Post


If you can tune the LP Xover in your sub(s) to come in at the point your main speakers give up you do not need the HP filter.


You'll want to buy speakers that give up with a smooth 12dB/octave drop at a common subwoofer crossover frequency.

post #17993 of 18055
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You'll want to buy speakers that give up with a smooth 12dB/octave drop at a common subwoofer crossover frequency.


​That's not necessary at all.  Blending a system in room only requires the right measurement tools and some patience, and knowing what sort of net output FR you wish to achieve.  Oh, and room treatments help since room modes often have far more to do with the net results than the LF performance of your main loudspeakers.

post #17994 of 18055
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Originally Posted by Ableza View Post
 

The perfect conductor: signal in=signal out.  The closest we can come to that without using superconductors is signal in=(signal out less resistive losses.)  Any alteration to the signal by the conductor is undesirable and considered "noise."  Conductors which introduce enough "noise" are defective.

 

Interesting topical anecdote:  Back when I was in the manic throes of cleaning up my supply power to my audio build via input power conditioning units and audiophile quality power cables, I bought a Hines LPS to power my Chord QuteHD DAC.  Paid good money, and waited seemingly forever for the custom build and delivery, and when I plugged it in, the damned thing didn't work.  Needless to say, I was starting to feel like a fool for indulging in an international order to a dour artisan, but when I replaced the fat audio quality cable with a simple hardware power cable while troubleshooting, the LPS lit right up and performed to spec.  The audio quality power cable turned out to be more about impedance than conductance.     

post #17995 of 18055

the cool thing about the name "audio cable" is that it doesn't actually relate to any objective or subjective parameter. you can take any cable and do anything to it(including nothing at all) and call it audio cable.

such a specific terminology is bound to result in a few surprises for the end user(aside from paying more for no clear reason).

post #17996 of 18055

Hmm, reading the Sage/Freya page made me realize something...

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Yes, Remote Control Included
When you’re talking about gear that doesn’t sit on your desktop (like our headphone amps), you need the convenience of remote control for volume, input switching, output switching

 

Doesn't this mean the current desktop DACs are a bit awkward to use with the preamps?

 

In my setup I have 3 sources, which through the right combinations of converters, fits perfectly into a Modi Uber. But if I got a preamp for the volume control for a 2 channel setup, then I'd have to get up every time I switched sources.

 

This problem goes for the entire DAC line right now. I could solve this with 3 Modis, but that gets even more silly if I wanted a Gungnir Multibit.

 

This could be solved with, moar products

 

If Schiit came out with a 5 arm Cthulu and single input DACs, then we could get 5 cheaper DACs with exactly the right input you need.

 

The new products would cover

  • Inputs
    • USB
    • Optical
    • Coax
    • BNC
    • AES/EBU
  • Outputs
    • RCA
    • XLR

That would mean 10 new DACs plus a new DAC Cthulu. If designed right the input side could be upgradable, since the preamp inside the DAC stays the same for the same output. This would reduce the number of products down to 1? You could call it the same product, but with different input/output combinations

 

I would hope if they did this it would all be multibit from the start.


Edited by Pyrolistical - 3/20/17 at 4:31pm
post #17997 of 18055

I'm sorry. All this because you are too lazy to get up and change sources?

post #17998 of 18055
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Originally Posted by Pyrolistical View Post
 

Hmm, reading the Sage/Freya page made me realize something...

 

Doesn't this mean the current desktop DACs are a bit awkward to use with the preamps?

 

In my setup I have 3 sources, which through the right combinations of converters, fits perfectly into a Modi Uber. But if I got a preamp for the volume control for a 2 channel setup, then I'd have to get up every time I switched sources.

 

This problem goes for the entire DAC line right now. I could solve this with 3 Modis, but that gets even more silly if I wanted a Gungnir Multibit.

 

This could be solved with, moar products

 

If Schiit came out with a 5 arm Cthulu and single input DACs, then we could get 5 cheaper DACs with exactly the right input you need.

 

The new products would cover

  • Inputs
    • USB
    • Optical
    • Coax
    • BNC
    • AES/EBU
  • Outputs
    • RCA
    • XLR

That would mean 10 new DACs plus a new DAC Cthulu. If designed right the input side could be upgradable, since the preamp inside the DAC stays the same for the same output. This would reduce the number of products down to 1? You could call it the same product, but with different input/output combinations

 

I would hope if they did this it would all be multibit from the start.

 

 

It even has a remote!

 

No need for Schiit to make 10 more SKU's when the solution to your problem comes at a price of $20 on Amazon. LOL


Edited by Karlthehusky721 - 3/20/17 at 4:49pm
post #17999 of 18055

Totally agree, no questions asked, no special colours, this is exactly the way it should be, truly inspiring, fully support this business model. We want more companies like this !

post #18000 of 18055

Wow. 1,200 pages, 18,000 posts. Epic!

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Edited by valiant66 - 3/20/17 at 6:11pm
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