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Yeah, but that's a turntable.  It's obviously susceptible to vibrations.

 

It's not obvious why a well-built DAC would benefit from vibration reduction in any normal home setting.


Only thing I can think of is cable microphonics on the interconnects between the DAC and amp. If the DAC is sitting on a 2000W SUB blasting fullforce i guess you could probably notice it to some degree.

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Can we get a statement from Schiit about the use of 7N7 Tubes with an adapter in Freya/Saga? That would be cool.

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Can we get a statement from Schiit about the use of 7N7 Tubes with an adapter in Freya/Saga? That would be cool.

According to this "Electrical parameters are 100% identical." it would work.

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Agree. I love when the staff comes and and tries to, without a hint of irony, with a virtual straight face, take these products seriously.

What is most egregious is that the writeup is an obvious press release, the commentator calls them on it, and Stereophile doubles down by stating that it the reviewer's opinion. Suggesting that the reviewer's integrity is being attacked.

Truly nauseating.
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Can we get a statement from Schiit about the use of 7N7 Tubes with an adapter in Freya/Saga? That would be cool.

 

I would also love to hear opinions on using 12AT7/12AU7 tubes with adapters.  

 

Jason, I know this is a bit funky, but good 6SN7 tubes are EXPENSIVE and many of us have a great stockpile of noval tubes laying around, like Telefunken ECC801S.  I'm sure it's not your preference or you would have designed the Freya to use them (I'm sure you're going to say they are not as linear as 6SN7).  Regardless, an opinion would be very useful.  Are there significant downsides to using these tubes?


Edited by belgiangenius - 1/11/17 at 8:50am
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Only thing I can think of is cable microphonics on the interconnects between the DAC and amp. If the DAC is sitting on a 2000W SUB blasting fullforce i guess you could probably notice it to some degree.


If it got to that point, you'd probably hear nore noise from the DAC physically moving about, kinda like a washing machine on spin cycle...

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If it got to that point, you'd probably hear nore noise from the DAC physically moving about, kinda like a washing machine on spin cycle...

 

You'd probably be inconveniently deaf at that point.

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What is most egregious is that the writeup is an obvious press release, the commentator calls them on it, and Stereophile doubles down by stating that it the reviewer's opinion. Suggesting that the reviewer's integrity is being attacked.

Truly nauseating.


Well, that is the thing..when you report on products that are solutions in search of problems, there really is very little you can defend, and in a huff, most will just double down.

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Well, that is the thing..when you report on products that are solutions in search of problems, there really is very little you can defend, and in a huff, most will just double down.

The first sign of needing to ignore a product is when you can make a couple of phone calls and have someone design it, make it, and ship it to you in ten days for 1/3rd the price. LOL!

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All praises to the Norse Gods, my Freya has shipped!

post #16226 of 16357
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Originally Posted by watchnerd View Post
 

 

Yeah, but that's a turntable.  It's obviously susceptible to vibrations.

 

It's not obvious why a well-built DAC would benefit from vibration reduction in any normal home setting.

Crystals that may be used for a DAC's clocks are piezoelectric, and can turn mechanical vibrations into electrical signal, so in theory, there is a physical mechanism for inducing jitter with vibration. Whether such a thing is important or even audible is another question entirely ... The Mark Levinson 30.5 DAC suspended its clock circuit board on rubber bands, and an old tweak to CD players was to put rubber dampers on their crystals. Rotel CD players even came from the factory with little gummy sleeves on their crystals!

 

Again, the audibility of this is questionable, but it's certainly been out there for a while.

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All praises to the Norse Gods, my Freya has shipped!


Lucky you!

 

Man I wish Schiit remembered they have fans in Europe (and the UK, now separate) as well...

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One of the customers at a local hifi shop(i was told by a consultant there) built his/her house around the turntable, starting with a big solid slab of concrete to act as a platform for the turntable and building the house around it. he/she is probably one of the owners of those KEF MUONs or Gryphoon KODOs they have standing around. Prices on those are so obscene i don't even want to listen to them xD

My buddy, who is not particularly wealthy, used to be a DJ on the local college station (CJSW). He bought an acreage out of town cause he couldn't afford anything in Calgary, and moved an existing structure he bought for a buck onto it. When he poured the foundations he used one of those Sonotubes and poured a column based in the bedrock below the basement up through a hole in his living room floor to be his isolated turntable platform. All he had to worry about was air-born vibration affecting his not-particularly expensive record player.
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"Vidar" (extreme weather) reaches western coast of Norway. Highest tides in 20 years..

 

Part of your marketing?? :D  (probably!  Damn you are good! I did hope that amp was powerful, but comeON!)     ;) 

 

 

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post #16230 of 16357
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 he/she is probably one of the owners of those KEF MUONs .... Prices on those are so obscene i don't even want to listen to them xD

My wife and I went to CAF last august.

 

Afterwards I asked her which room sounded the best, which she liked.  She said the "room with the steel-looking/metal speakers."  That was the VPI/Kef MUON room.

 

Now I get to tease her about her expensive tastes.  The speakers I liked were 1/30 the price (maybe less).

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