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I used to teach at two California Universities back in the 90's.  I was also running my own business and consulting for a couple others at the same time.  I can't tell you how many times I heard some jerk in industry say "those who can, do, and those who can't, teach."  I loved looking at them and replying, "And only those with very exceptional skills can do both."  That usually shut them up.  :D

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I used to teach at two California Universities back in the 90's.  I was also running my own business and consulting for a couple others at the same time.  I can't tell you how many times I heard some jerk in industry say "those who can, do, and those who can't, teach."  I loved looking at them and replying, "And only those with very exceptional skills can do both."  That usually shut them up.  :D

 

I love it!

 

I have no illusions about my ability to teach. 

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I supposed academic line serves well to those who prefer doing research, as it gives them the most freedom. However, most teaching staffs stopped at teaching, or focused too much on research and neglecting their teaching duties. Hard to find them who can do both at the same time. 

This article really hit the spot, since preconception on management level is that, they only contribute to the spendings of the company, but not earning them. 

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Very interested to hear about Alex, I wasn't aware of him and his contributions.
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I used to teach at two California Universities back in the 90's.  I was also running my own business and consulting for a couple others at the same time.  I can't tell you how many times I heard some jerk in industry say "those who can, do, and those who can't, teach."  I loved looking at them and replying, "And only those with very exceptional skills can do both."  That usually shut them up.  :D

 

-And those who can't teach, teach gym. :) (I think it is a Robin Williams line from 'Dead Poets Society'; credit where credit is due)

 

I'm an engineer - most of the time, a pretty darn good one - and I've tried my hand at teaching. Turned out to be incredibly difficult; knowing what to do to achieve a certain result is one thing.

 

Being able to explain that to someone else in a way which enables them to understand and build on what you tried to teach them, rather than just mindlessly repeat what you said - a completely different matter!

 

Nowadays I really enjoy the teaching bit, though - I work in an R&D department, but spend about a quarter of my time in our workshop, guiding the apprentices. Great fun - and much better results than when I had to try (and fail miserably!) teaching a group in a classroom...

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Those who say that "those who can't do, teach" usually won't last more than 5 minutes in a classroom.

The amount of patience, a cool head and an extra long temper needed to teach someone what you do is astronomical. I tried teaching people, adults at that, to do my job and quit after a week. I hate to think what teaching kids and teenagers would be like.
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Those who say that "those who can't do, teach" usually won't last more than 5 minutes in a classroom.

The amount of patience, a cool head and an extra long temper needed to teach someone what you do is astronomical. I tried teaching people, adults at that, to do my job and quit after a week. I hate to think what teaching kids and teenagers would be like.

I work at a university in a staff position and as an adjunct and it's the truth - there are certainly people who teach that can't hack it without the protections of academia, but there are plenty of hotshot private sector folks who couldn't effectively teach people a thing about their profession.  The trick is finding people who are good teachers with good knowledge and experience of how their field actually works.

 

I should add, my sister teaches high school English and my brother in law taught middle school math.  While perhaps I could teach high school, I couldn't do it nearly as well.  Not so much presenting the info in an engaging way but the "classroom management" portion of it - I'd be fed up quick.


Edited by azteca x - 7/10/14 at 7:06am
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Not so much presenting the info in an engaging way but the "classroom management" portion of it - I'd be fed up quick.

 

Ha! To be fair, Alex did say something like "Well, Tony and Eddie are kinda like kids, so it's not much different than what I was doing," when he started. 

 

He was probably also thinking, "And Jason and Mike, too..."

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Ha! To be fair, Alex did say something like "Well, Tony and Eddie are kinda like kids, so it's not much different than what I was doing," when he started. 

 

He was probably also thinking, "And Jason and Mike, too..."

 

 

In all fairness, this is probably not true as he hasn't called either of you into his "office", asked you to "assume the position" and given you a good "working over" ... unless it was consensual - in which case we must truly admire the man's adaptability and versatility ... :D

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In all fairness, they were already in the Schiithole... :rolleyes:

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Actually, "Co-Founder" is pretty much at the apex of the ego massaging food chain.  My title fave tho is "Management Supervisor", usually reserved for the executive admin.  Or in your case, Rina.  :wink:

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Ha! To be fair, Alex did say something like "Well, Tony and Eddie are kinda like kids, so it's not much different than what I was doing," when he started. 

 

He was probably also thinking, "And Jason and Mike, too..."

Alex shouldn't be pointing fingers, he did take a job at a company named "Schiit." I hope he has a healthy sense of humor.

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My current business card title is "Member of the Technical Staff."  It means either "Old Fart who knows too much for us to let him retire" or "I still get a paycheck even though I'm approaching uselessness."  :)

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My current card title is SME, or 'subject matter expert' for the acronymally challenged.  Which is a euphemism for "the buck stops here", usually after they've already mucked it up without consulting first.

 

Hmm... now that I think on it, "Old Fart who knows too much..." would probably fit me as well.  Except my monolithic company management can't even spell unexpendable.


Edited by jacal01 - 7/10/14 at 6:45pm
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I don't have a card. :(

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