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Westone Introduces the ES60 - 6BA Custom In Ear

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You probably saw it coming after the introduction of their 6 driver universal; here's the official announcement: http://myemail.constantcontact.com/WESTONE-DEBUTS-ES60--THE-NEWEST-IN-EAR-MONITOR-IN-THE-ELITE-SERIES-PRODUCT-LINE-FOR-PROFESSIONAL-MUSICIANS-AT-NAMM-2014.html?soid=1102655398472&aid=g0HdoAfuOmo

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This is starting at $1300 before options so Westone isn't being shy about their pricing.

post #3 of 59
If it can compete with the current totl, westone is not pricing it too badly
post #4 of 59
was thinking if they are releasing an ES70 as they were doing odd numbers. smily_headphones1.gif
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Nice!
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This is my first post on here I went from the westone 3's to the jh16's now I can't wait to try these out.
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To be honest, Hi-fi audio products are getting ridiculous prices. How on earth IEMs are exceeded $1000 price point? If audiophile people keep buying super overpriced products, there will be $5,000 for a IEM, $10,000 for a headphone, and $20,000 for an Amp in the very near future. Eventually, noone can afford hi-fi products and we will be going back to Apple earbud soon.
Edited by benjaminhuypham - 1/22/14 at 8:59pm
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Originally Posted by benjaminhuypham View Post

To be honest, Hi-fi audio products are getting ridiculous prices. How on earth IEMs are exceeded $1000 price point? If audiophile people keep buying super overpriced products, there will be $5,000 for a IEM, $10,000 for a headphone, and $20,000 for an Amp in the very near future. Eventually, noone can afford hi-fi products and we will be going back to Apple earbud soon=))

 

Don't get your rationale behind that claim. It's not like Westone stopped carrying their entry-level custom models such as the ES10, 20, 30, 50, let alone their universal models. If you can't afford $5000 IEM's then simply buy the $100 IEM or whatever costing IEM that you can afford that is offered.

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Originally Posted by benjaminhuypham View Post

To be honest, Hi-fi audio products are getting ridiculous prices. How on earth IEMs are exceeded $1000 price point? If audiophile people keep buying super overpriced products, there will be $5,000 for a IEM, $10,000 for a headphone, and $20,000 for an Amp in the very near future. Eventually, noone can afford hi-fi products and we will be going back to Apple earbud soon.


No doubt these are very much luxury items.  At the same time entry level IEMs have been improving by leaps and bounds (trickle down technology) and competition is sure to drop some prices in the future as well. 

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This is my first post on here I went from the westone 3's to the jh16's now I can't wait to try these out.

You don't like the JH16?

 

I remeber I had W3 and JH16 at the same time.  JH16 was better but $300 versus $1200?

 

The change was more like $300 versus $400

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Originally Posted by benjaminhuypham View Post

To be honest, Hi-fi audio products are getting ridiculous prices. How on earth IEMs are exceeded $1000 price point? If audiophile people keep buying super overpriced products, there will be $5,000 for a IEM, $10,000 for a headphone, and $20,000 for an Amp in the very near future. Eventually, noone can afford hi-fi products and we will be going back to Apple earbud soon.

In my experiences, the pricing of most IEMs are still pretty much "to scale" with what they offer. The unique combination of comfort (especially with the customs), sound quality, miniature size... etc. Rule of thumb is that full size headphones usually deliver more oomph for less money, but people who use IEMs usually have specific use case where they don't want full size headphones. It's hard to make something incredibly small and deliver a full range of sound.

 

Most customs start around the $500 range, and UE has been making $1300 IEMs for years now (the UE 18 Pro w/ 6 drivers as well). So the pricing of these Westone are pretty much in line with expectations. 

post #12 of 59
I do like the jh16's more than the w3's they're both bassy and that's my preference but I'm always looking for something better I had a chance to listen to some universal Roxanne's and they were great. Also as for difference between w3 and jh16 what did you mean by it's more like a 300 vs 400 dollar difference?
Edited by EpicAnthony - 1/24/14 at 4:53pm
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That I did not think that the JH16 sounded 400% better than W3 from a price standpoint.  Maybe 25% ($300 to 400) if even that.

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KInd of surprised it's a dual instead of triple bore. Maybe the tweeter and mid share a nozzle like the twfk.

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That I did not think that the JH16 sounded 400% better than W3 from a price standpoint.  Maybe 25% ($300 to 400) if even that.

 

Ah, I see you're new here - welcome to head-fi! When Buying Things (not just audio gear, this applies to everything), we have a phenomenon known as "diminishing returns". It means that as the quality of what you're purchasing goes up, the price increases exponentially. We also have an accompanying phenomenon we call "buyer's remorse" which is what happens when someone purchases high quality Things without prior knowledge of "diminishing returns".


Edited by Jimlad - 1/25/14 at 4:28am
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