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Sennheiser HD 598 vs Audio Technica AD700

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Which are more airy?

How would you compare airyness of them?

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The AD 700 has noticeably more air and a larger sound stage.  It is also very light on the head.  That said the 598 (and the 558 & probably the 518) is superior to it virtually everything else.

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The AD 700 has noticeably more air and a larger sound stage.  It is also very light on the head.  That said the 598 (and the 558 & probably the 518) is superior to it virtually everything else.


I listen to soft rock and acoustic and I am not a fan of bass. which ones would be more suitable for me?

I love the airy sound of my PL 30. I bought the grado 60i's thinking they were airy, but they weren't really. so this time, i am actually looking for an airy sounding can.

I would have bought the AD 700 a long ago, but I read things about them like they don't have a fuller sound and they are bass anaemic or something. Recently, I have come across the HD 598 and people say they are airy, but are they really airy?because while purchasing the grado 60i's . people said the same. I don't want the same experience again :)

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The Grado gives you the "sitting on the stage with the band" sound signature.  They are not airy (it is forward) and do not have an open sound stage.

 

The Senns I mentioned have significantly more bass than the 700.  That is not because they are bass heavy, but because the 700 is significantly bass light.  The Senns are certainly not airy.  The 518 is a bit dark.  The other two have treble that's a bit veiled and a bit rolled off.  The Grado is much brighter. 

 

The Senns, with their velvety smooth & slightly veiled sound, are very suitable for soft rock.  In fact they are good alrounders in their price class.

 

The Grado, with its slam and small sound stage, is best for classic rock and electric blues.

 

The 700, with its large sound stage and bass lite presentation, is good for relaxed easy listening.

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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post
 

The Grado gives you the "sitting on the stage with the band" sound signature.  They are not airy (it is forward) and do not have an open sound stage.

 

The Senns I mentioned have significantly more bass than the 700.  That is not because they are bass heavy, but because the 700 is significantly bass light.  The Senns are certainly not airy.  The 518 is a bit dark.  The other two have treble that's a bit veiled and a bit rolled off.  The Grado is much brighter.

 

The Senns, with their velvety smooth & slightly veiled sound, are very suitable for soft rock.  In fact they are good alrounders in their price class.

 

The Grado, with its slam and small sound stage, is best for classic rock and electric blues.

 

The 700, with its large sound stage and bass lite presentation, is good for relaxed easy listening.


I owned the HD 518. They were amazing, but I didn't like the sq. They were too dark and muddy for my taste. I sold them immediately. Would I have the same experience with the HD 598's?

And they are not airy?Most of the reviews say - they are and they have sparkly treble and warm mids.

Besides, I love the Grado's sound signature. They are almost perfect for me except for the small soundstage. I am expecting the 598's to sound like the Grados with a huge soundstage and not so forward vocals.


Edited by zanox - 1/20/14 at 1:05pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post
 

The Grado gives you the "sitting on the stage with the band" sound signature.  They are not airy (it is forward) and do not have an open sound stage.

 

The Senns I mentioned have significantly more bass than the 700.  That is not because they are bass heavy, but because the 700 is significantly bass light.  The Senns are certainly not airy.  The 518 is a bit dark.  The other two have treble that's a bit veiled and a bit rolled off.  The Grado is much brighter.

 

The Senns, with their velvety smooth & slightly veiled sound, are very suitable for soft rock.  In fact they are good alrounders in their price class.

 

The Grado, with its slam and small sound stage, is best for classic rock and electric blues.

 

The 700, with its large sound stage and bass lite presentation, is good for relaxed easy listening.


I owned the HD 518. They were amazing, but I didn't like the sq. They were too dark and muddy for my taste. I sold them immediately. Would I have the same experience with the HD 598's?

And they are not airy?Most of the reviews say - they are and they have sparkly treble and warm mids.

Besides, I love the Grado's sound signature. They are almost perfect for me except for the small soundstage. I am expecting the 598's to sound like the Grados with a huge soundstage and not so forward vocals.


Expect the 558 & 598 to sound like your old 518, except they are not as dark; have expanded sound stages and (as part of being less dark) have more treble.  They sound like a smooth whiskey tastes.  In many ways are are more opposites to the Grado than like them.  I have no disagreement with the "warm mids" you mentioned, but they certainly do not here "sparkly treble" (except perhaps relative to the HD 518).  For sparkly treble, you need something like the DT 880.

 

It is interesting that all the HD 5X8 cans share the same driver.  However the 518 sound quite different from its bigger brothers.

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Expect the 558 & 598 to sound like your old 518, except they are not as dark; have expanded sound stages and (as part of being less dark) have more treble.  They sound like a smooth whiskey tastes.  In many ways are are more opposites to the Grado than like them.  I have no disagreement with the "warm mids" you mentioned, but they certainly do not here "sparkly treble" (except perhaps relative to the HD 518).  For sparkly treble, you need something like the DT 880.

 

It is interesting that all the HD 5X8 cans share the same driver.  However the 518 sound quite different from its bigger brothers.


I have a budget of 150$. I don't think I can afford the DT880 + I am going to drive them with my Xonar DGX card which has an inbuilt amp.

And well,I didn't like the "darkness" in the HD 518.  too much sub bass kinda muddied the mids a little i think. rest of the sound was awesome.

I think the 598's don't have that "darkness". So I might consider them.

what other options do i have in my budget?

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I have a budget of 150$. I don't think I can afford the DT880 + I am going to drive them with my Xonar DGX card which has an inbuilt amp.

And well,I didn't like the "darkness" in the HD 518.  too much sub bass kinda muddied the mids a little i think. rest of the sound was awesome.

I think the 598's don't have that "darkness". So I might consider them.

what other options do i have in my budget?

I would say to get the HD558s (Amazon has used for $109) and remove the black rubber tape from inside the cups.

The tape covers about 40% of the air holes.

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