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Headphones suck or is it me?

post #1 of 11
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Well i got a pair of decent headphones, i got an amp and connected them to my computer well eh ...

 

 

i can bear any sound from instruments okay thats fine, but the voices? the voices of a song? man they are like in the center of my head it just hurts a lot, is there a way to widen it without losing the stereo image? i tried 5.1 headphones and they are awful as fk, i tried everything and everything is awful, the only way i can escape from this is using replay gain -12db and turning the vol on my amplifier up more but i don't want to use RG because people say it degrades the sound, really i just want a layback experience for my music ....

 

my headphones sound better on my portable mp3 player ....

 

 

what do?


Edited by dsdsds - 1/18/14 at 9:02am
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No... a headphone will ALWAYS sound like what it physically is... a headphone, a pair of very near field speakers.  Theres no way to get a headphone to sound like a live instrument played in person, or someone singing next to you in a room.  Some headphones definitely do project sounds outward more than others, but its still all relative.

 

Post what headphones, amp you have, and let forum members suggest further refinements... start with that.


Edited by kramer5150 - 1/18/14 at 9:07am
post #3 of 11

what's your headphone, amp, soundcard..??

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Originally Posted by kramer5150 View Post
 

No... a headphone will ALWAYS sound like what it physically is... a headphone, a pair of very near field speakers.  Theres no way to get a headphone to sound like a live instrument played in person, or someone singing next to you in a room.  Some headphones definitely do project sounds outward more than others, but its still all relative.

 

Post what headphones, amp you have, and let forum members suggest further refinements... start with that.

 

 

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Originally Posted by hema View Post
 

what's your headphone, amp, soundcard..??

 

 

http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/products/archive/SE-MJ5/page.html a bit too loud even on cheap mp3 portable mp3 player - sound too loud on amp

 

http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/RP-HT260 sounds fantastic on mp3 player - sounds less loud on amp

 

AMP: well is not really a headphone amp of some sort or something dedicated, i had an old stere osystem from the 2000s, 160 watts and it had an headphone jack of 6.3mm.

 

Sound card: just my onboard realtek of 2011 because i heard sound cards really dont affect sound quality by a noticeable amount on music.

 

 

help


Edited by dsdsds - 1/18/14 at 9:17am
post #5 of 11

How is anyone going to give you any help if you don't even say what headphones you were using?

post #6 of 11

sound card dont affect sound quality..??

then who is responsible for it

what does this expensive thing do

ASUS Xonar Essence ST

 

what you need is a good dac


Edited by hema - 1/18/14 at 9:39am
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Originally Posted by hema View Post
 

sound card dont affect sound quality..??

then who is responsible for it

what does this expensive thing do

 

what you need is a good dac

 

will that separate the sound out of the center of my head at least a bit? and why they sound better on mt portable mp3 player? i thought that little thing could not power a 40 ohm headphone to give good sound quality ... can you explain it to me?

post #8 of 11

Neither of those headphones are going to project sound outward and project an open sound/head-stage.  Closed cans never do.... until you get into the much higher $$$ models.

 

When you say the sound "hurts a lot", that is a deep-dive discussion into psycho-acoustics.  The effects of sound on the mind.  To which there could be any number of things triggering overall discomfort.

-Fit & ergonomics

-The sensation of a closed air pocket around ones ear

-Headband pressure

-Ear pad pressure, both on and around the ear

-Spectral balance

-Time decay/response and resonant characteristics.

 

Some things to try:

-Turn down the volume, way down if necessary... and let your ears and brain adjust to the lower sound pressure

-Adjust the position of the headphone on your head

-Set all EQ settings to flat

-Turn off any spatial enhancers/effects on your PC/music stream player

 

Most people are frequency and amplitude sensitive (generally) more so than time response (attack, decay, resonance) sensitive.  So start by adjusting all EQ sliders, everything flat and turning down the volume, way down if necessary.

 

Many stereo receivers have surprisingly good sounding headphone outputs.  I have a Denon HT receiver from about 2003 and I plug straight into that all the time.  So with your highly sensitive headphones, I strongly doubt an amp upgrade will alleviate your discomfort.


Edited by kramer5150 - 1/18/14 at 9:58am
post #9 of 11

Just get yourself something like the inexpensive Fiio E10 and it just might make you a believer.  The E10 can easily drive your current phones, probably has a better DAC than what you are currently using,  and will give you a better overall listening experience.


Edited by tattoou2 - 1/18/14 at 9:48am
post #10 of 11

Oh one more thing... some people are highly sensitive to channel imbalance.  So make sure your balance settings are set to the middle on your music player and receiver.

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Originally Posted by kramer5150 View Post
 

Oh one more thing... some people are highly sensitive to channel imbalance.  So make sure your balance settings are set to the middle on your music player and receiver.

 

 

Okay thanks, then i will try to look more into it and what not, thanks for your help.

 

 

Thanks to all you guys :D

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