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Hello, I've been accustomed to my Sennhesier IE8's for the last 4 year's. But now i'd like to get some fullsize headphone's. I'm looking for a similar tone of the IE8's.

 

The things I really loved in the IE8's was the outstanding Soundstage they had. It was Superb in my opinion. I love Bass and crisp Mids/treble, I enjoy high's which the IE8s lacked but I also don't like them too overpowering. They also weren't too good with it's mids. As which the bass could of used more Fine-Tuning as well.

Awhile back I bought a pair of Sennheiser 650HD's from a fellow Headfi user to venture into fullsized. They were honestly the complete opposite of what I was looking for, Almost no bass but the mid area was pretty dang great.I didn't like how they were open canns because they seemed leak sounce alot. I haven't browsed these forums in well over a year and a half, so not sure what to look for. Iv'e tried the Beats Studio edition (the fullsized like 600 ones) and while the sub-bass was interesting, they were awful overall in my personal experience. Feel you could get a whole lot more for that price.

 

P.S: Not sure if my no use of a proper AMP/DAC affected my opinion of the 650HD's. I didn't have my Sounds card at that time (See few paragraphs down.)

 

Would Prefer headphone's that go over the ear. Like the cup encloses your ear. On-ear is considered but they have to be comfortable, probably use the headphones for atleast 3 hours minimum at a time, up to 6.

 

The Music I listen too in order lean's towards:

-Trance ( Blackmill, Deadmau5)

-Rock (Linkin park I guess would give a general idea?)

-Dubstep (more into the Trance-ish not so harsh dubstep, like emalkay, enigma, Gemini, some bassnectar)

-HipHop (I dont listen to this genre because its assumed to have bass, I like the genre. Like 90's rap)

 

My Priority Chart:

-Bass (Clean, Punchy, and hits sub bass with ease)

-Soundstage

-Mids

-Highs

 

 

I own a HT Omega Claro halo XT so I could use that as a Headphone Amplifier & DAC with personally picked OPAMP's (I went through about 25 different one's til I got the flavor i wanted)

Also Own a FiiO E11 Amp.

I'd like to get a Schitt Vali & Modi AMP/DAC Combo after I get my new headphone's. (Should I go for Tube's Vali model or Magni? I'm thinking the vali.)

 

 

My Budget is around $300. But I'm willing to fiddle with it if its in the $1-200 range. but that's a low chance, REALLY want to get a Schitt Vali Modi setup. Which doesn't fit my Budget so much.

 

 

Currently Headphone's I can't get my eye's off.

-Sennheiser 700HD (With they're new price changes, $649. Iv'e found myself gazing at them)

-HiFiMAN HE-400 (leaning on these more since they're cheaper and you can get them for like $300 used)


Edited by Shoulon - 1/16/14 at 10:44pm
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Clean, punchy, and effortless subbass is a perfect description of the HE-400's main strength. I listen to a lot of electronic music and greatly enjoy the HE-400 for that genre. It's great for rock and rap too, though I find that a lot of rap is poorly produced and doesn't have deep enough bass. Well-recorded rap like the Roots is great on them though.

Soundstage is big but not the hugest, however the HE-400 has very precise 3-D imaging -- the instruments in the soundstage are clearly layered and separated. The mids are fast and textured, so you get a very good sense of crunch on guitars and synths. The highs are a little fatiguing, but this can be mostly fixed by using EQ.  

I find the HE-400 to be perfectly comfortable for long periods, but be aware that they are fairly heavy and that some people find them uncomfortable for that reason. 

I haven't tried them with the Vali, but I've seen positive comments on the pairing from people who have. 

If you want bass that's powerful and impressive while still being clean and accurate, HE-400 is a great choice. Absolute bass monster in a hi-fi sense, not a Beats-ish sense. I have not heard the HD-700, but I considered getting it before I got the HE-400, and I don't regret my choice in the least. 

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Clean, punchy, and effortless subbass is a perfect description of the HE-400's main strength. I listen to a lot of electronic music and greatly enjoy the HE-400 for that genre. It's great for rock and rap too, though I find that a lot of rap is poorly produced and doesn't have deep enough bass. Well-recorded rap like the Roots is great on them though.

Soundstage is big but not the hugest, however the HE-400 has very precise 3-D imaging -- the instruments in the soundstage are clearly layered and separated. The mids are fast and textured, so you get a very good sense of crunch on guitars and synths. The highs are a little fatiguing, but this can be mostly fixed by using EQ.  

I find the HE-400 to be perfectly comfortable for long periods, but be aware that they are fairly heavy and that some people find them uncomfortable for that reason. 

I haven't tried them with the Vali, but I've seen positive comments on the pairing from people who have. 

If you want bass that's powerful and impressive while still being clean and accurate, HE-400 is a great choice. Absolute bass monster in a hi-fi sense, not a Beats-ish sense. I have not heard the HD-700, but I considered getting it before I got the HE-400, and I don't regret my choice in the least. 

 

Thanks for the response, much appreciated. In regards to comfort, whats your opinion on it? What size hat do you wear? (to get a general idea if they'd be too big for me or not, I wear a 7 1/8 fit.)

 

Also Do the HE400's leak sound? I don't think I'd get them if they leak sound. A little is fine, but nothing like the Sennheiser 650HD. Thats a open cann with alot of leak.


Edited by Shoulon - 1/17/14 at 11:42pm
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HE 400 is an open design headphone. Sound leak is a lot!

Have you looked at Audio GD 15.32 dac/amp? it is value for the money.

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HE 400 is an open design headphone. Sound leak is a lot!
Have you looked at Audio GD 15.32 dac/amp? it is value for the money.

I went ahead and read up on the Audio GD you mentioned. Looks very good to my interest. My plan for the amp/dac is to start small and work my way up. Hope to try several of them while progressing up the budget chain.

So the sound leak on the 400's is alot huh? Wouldn't be nice to use at night near my girlfriend sleeping then huh.(my desk area is near the bed). I'm back to haven't no particular choice in headphones except maybe the Sennheiser Momentum over ear edition which probably wouldn't have as much emphasis on how dark the he400 would be.
Edited by Shoulon - 1/18/14 at 2:43am
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I don't know my exact hat size, but it is very large. Usually the last snap thing, sometimes even that is too small.

The HE-400 leaks a ton of sound. More than other open headphones I've owned.
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