Dont agree. The topic says "explain the benefit and use of tube amps" and the discussion is certainly relevant to that.
Also, more pertinently to your subsequent questions, the discussion useless b/c it gives context to both asking for and receiving advice. You cannot really have a recommendation for an amp without:
1/ Defining "better" in terms of expectations
2/ Understanding the pros and cons of tube amps, especially inexpensive ones
As is, I for one to do not have enough info to really give a meaningful answer to your question. If you want a tube amp for the sake of a tube amp, buy whichever one you get. If you want it for a specific reason, what is that? That will affect what your recommendations are. The bulk of this thread covers that in enough detail.
Thank you for the reply, I guess what I was getting at was that most of the above information was a little over my head and generally I do know the sound of tubes (warm, full bodied, maybe slightly less accurate low end) and I'm not too worried about the sound, I just want something that people have a common agreement to be a good "begginer" tube amp. As for lorspeaker, I'll for sure check it out,oops very intriguing and I like the ease of swapping tubes. This is a great start, keep the suggestions coming please.