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3.5 mm to RCA without the RCA termination

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 

I've been looking all over the place for a cable like this but I can't seem to find one.

 

Thanks for the help

 

 

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Edited by blance44 - 1/12/14 at 7:20pm
post #2 of 20

I assume you want to recable a pair of headphones? 

post #3 of 20
Thread Starter 

No, it's actually for a speaker system, my center piece is a sony soundbar and it only takes in hdmi and 3.5 and I really don't want to go the hdmi route in case I don't want to use the soundbar when listening.

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Originally Posted by blance44 View Post
 

I've been looking all over the place for a cable like this but I can't seem to find one.

 

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10218&cs_id=1021817&p_id=9300&seq=1&format=2

http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-3-5mm-Male-2-Male-Adapter/dp/B004YEBK66/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1389587766&sr=8-4&keywords=3.4mm+to+RCA

http://www.amazon.com/Stereo-connecting-iPhones-smartphones-players/dp/B00CTTBSR4/ref=sr_1_30?ie=UTF8&qid=1389587788&sr=8-30&keywords=3.4mm+to+RCA

http://www.amazon.com/Ayangyag-3-5mm-Quality-Stereo-Audio/dp/B00E0ITXYM/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1389587766&sr=8-15&keywords=3.4mm+to+RCA

http://www.amazon.com/Ayangyag-3-5mm-Quality-Stereo-Audio/dp/B00E0ITXYM/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1389587766&sr=8-15&keywords=3.4mm+to+RCA

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SILVER-PLATED-3-FT-AUDIOPHILE-AUX-3-5-mm-to-RCA-EXTENSION-CABLE-MADE-IN-USA-/201018547569?pt=US_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item2ecda39d71

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Audiophile-amplifier-Hi-end-Gold-Plated-RCA-to-3-5mm-Phono-Cable-1-5-meter-LT-/290761742887?pt=US_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item43b2c01a27

http://www.ebay.com/itm/iPhone-Y-Adapter-Audio-Splitter-3-5mm-Stereo-to-2-RCA-/290531610645?pt=US_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item43a5089015

 

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Originally Posted by blance44 View Post

 

3.5 mm to RCA without the RCA termination

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Originally Posted by blance44 View Post
 

No, it's actually for a speaker system, my center piece is a sony soundbar and it only takes in hdmi and 3.5 and I really don't want to go the hdmi route in case I don't want to use the soundbar when listening.

I'm not sure what you mean here - the photo has the RCA termination, and if you hook up the 3.5mm end to the soundbar, where are you planning to hook up the the other end of those cables?

post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 

I have a receiver that the rca ends will go to and that why I can't have the rca tips on it because it's going to be my center piece. I need the 3.5mm end to still be there, just not the rca ends

post #6 of 20

I genuinely don't get what you need: a rca cable without the ends? buy any cable and cut the plug, separate the cables. Some times a photo might be better for understanding purposes... 

post #7 of 20
Thread Starter 

Well the problem is I can't find a photo that would accurately describe what I need

 

What cable should I buy to cut the termination off if I were to go that route?


Edited by blance44 - 1/13/14 at 1:59pm
post #8 of 20

The cheapest one for sure to test first!

post #9 of 20
Thread Starter 

Okay, since I'm new to this, how would I go about doing it?

post #10 of 20
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Originally Posted by blance44 View Post
 

I have a receiver that the rca ends will go to and that why I can't have the rca tips on it because it's going to be my center piece. I need the 3.5mm end to still be there, just not the rca end.

 

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Originally Posted by squallkiercosa View Post
 

I genuinely don't get what you need: a rca cable without the ends? buy any cable and cut the plug, separate the cables. Some times a photo might be better for understanding purposes... 

 

I think we just have a language or semantics/terminological barrier here - by "center piece," which is an architectural/design term, does it mean
 

1) the receiver is the "center" of the system? Because it is, and that is what "receiver" means - it "receives" everything from all sources used (BluRay player/Media server, XBox/PSx/gaming PC, iDevice/Android, etc) then sounds out the appropriate signal to the related gear - video to HDTV, decoded sound to its amp, or to a separate amp, then to speakers; or

2) it somehow relates to the center channel speaker, as in the soundbar in one of the previous posts?

 

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Originally Posted by blance44 View Post
 

Well the problem is I can't find a photo that would accurately describe what I need

 

What cable should I buy to cut the termination off if I were to go that route?

 

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Originally Posted by squallkiercosa View Post
 

The cheapest one for sure to test first!

 

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Originally Posted by blance44 View Post
 

Okay, since I'm new to this, how would I go about doing it?

 

Let's not cut to splicing and stuff before we understand what really needs to be connected to what - some inputs and outputs aren't always compatible and that's why they need to have different types of connectors, and converter cables aren't available for such. He might be trying to connect speaker-level inputs or outputs to a line level output or input. Like the center channel high-level (speaker) output on the receiver to the low-level (line input) on the sound bar. Not to mention that, not to insult anyone, but if someone doesn't understand this, I wouldn't recommend that they go around splicing cables. BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTT OWWWWWOOOOOOWOWWWWWOWOWWW!!! Gear dead, guy in hospital. Maybe dead too.

 

@blance44, instead of looking for it online, can you just take a snapshot of the ports you want to connect on both the soundbar and the receiver using your smartphone or any digital camera then post them here? Or look for a photo of your sound bar and receiver, open it on MSPaint, encircle/mark said ports, then post them here.

post #11 of 20
Thread Starter 

This is my receiver and I wanted to hook the sound bar up as the center channel speaker.

 

 

Those are the only ports on the sound bar.

 

Now I just wanted to use a simple 3.5mm mini jack instead of running the sound and video through the sound bar and then to the tv. I already tried this and the lag between say, moving a mouse on my desktop and seeing it on the screen, was way too large so gaming would no longer be an option that way. I already thought of going with the optical route but there's no optical out on the receiver so I can't do that either. I already tried going optical out from the tv but there was a delay and there was a definite echo in the audio. So what would you suggest to make this my center channel speaker?


Edited by blance44 - 1/15/14 at 3:55pm
post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by blance44 View Post
 

 

This is my receiver and I wanted to hook the sound bar up as the center channel speaker.

 

Those are the only ports on the sound bar.

 

Now I just wanted to use a simple 3.5mm mini jack instead of running the sound and video through the sound bar and then to the tv. I already tried this and the lag between say, moving a mouse on my desktop and seeing it on the screen, was way too large so gaming would no longer be an option that way. I already thought of going with the optical route but there's no optical out on the receiver so I can't do that either. I already tried going optical out from the tv but there was a delay and there was a definite echo in the audio. So what would you suggest to make this my center channel speaker?

 

You cannot - I repeat - cannot use it that way! That soundbar has inputs for an unamplified (speaker-wise) or line-level signal, or at least a headphone output. Just because you can hook it up to the earphone output of many devices does not mean it can take an amplified speaker output as an input signal. That is one of the reasons why you cannot find a proper connector for those - the speaker amplifier output of the receiver has too much voltage for that input on the soundbar, which was designed to work on its own without a receiver. Even car audio processors that take the signal off the speaker amp on stock receivers (so you won't have to replace the stock receiver and mess with the integrated electronics and aesthetics, their warranties, and the stock GPS system especially if it works with services like OnStar) have the same speaker cable binding posts and a circuit specifically designed to take a high level (higher voltage) speaker amp signal before passing it to the signal processor circuit.

post #13 of 20
Thread Starter 

Yes, I understand but is there a converter that could reduce the voltage of the receiver to a line in level or something like that?

post #14 of 20
Is that an Optical in I see next to the 3.5mm on the soundbar? That seems like an easier solution if it is.
post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by Muinarc View Post

Is that an Optical in I see next to the 3.5mm on the soundbar? That seems like an easier solution if it is.

 

I think he wants to use it as a center channel speaker, so if he uses that, the receiver will just let all the sound through to the soundbar.

 

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Originally Posted by blance44 View Post
 

Yes, I understand but is there a converter that could reduce the voltage of the receiver to a line in level or something like that?

 

Check out car audio stores - look for something called a "line driver" (or used on eBay). You can then use an old car battery or a power inverter set to 12v DC to power it up if it's not a passive component. Best get something that has some kind of knob on it to adjust the gain, since you can't tell how much voltage goes out and how that affects the soundbar's amp, and the overall volume, relative to your other speakers if you're using this as a center channel.

Or, you know, you can just get a center channel speaker. Some go for less than a hundred bucks - that can't be a lot more than a line driver and a power inverter used plus the hassle of setting them up.

 

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