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Amplifier (and DAC) for HD 600

post #1 of 15
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Hello.

A couple of days ago I bought a pair of Sennheiser HD 600 and I am now wondering what amplifier to get for it.

Currently, I am using the HD 600 with a FiiO E10 I bought ~2 weeks ago (originally intended for use with the DT 880, but I returned those due to issues with comfort).

Anyway, I'm reading that the HD 600 will benefit from a better amp. I'm thinking about getting the O2 and was wondering if it's worth getting the O2 ODAC combo or just grabbing the O2 and plugging it into the unamped lineout of the E10. Would I be missing out on much/anything this way?

I spoke to Amazon, and they say I can still return the E10 for a full refund. The ODAC itself is still more expensive than the E10, though.

To sum up:
E10 -> O2 -> HD 600
or
ODAC -> O2 -> HD 600
or just stick with E10 -> HD600?

If anyone has any other suggestions, I would love to hear them, but I want to keep the price at a relatively low point.
post #2 of 15
The E10 is a fine DAC, I really doubt I would hear much difference between the E10 lineout and the ODAC lineout.
post #3 of 15
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Originally Posted by billybob_jcv View Post

The E10 is a fine DAC, I really doubt I would hear much difference between the E10 lineout and the ODAC lineout.

Thanks for replying! So you suggest I just get the O2 and plug that into the E10 line out?

post #4 of 15
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Originally Posted by guywithtwohands View Post

A couple of days ago I bought a pair of Sennheiser HD 600 and I am now wondering what amplifier to get for it.
Currently, I am using the HD 600 with a FiiO E10 I bought ~2 weeks ago (originally intended for use with the DT 880, but I returned those due to issues with comfort).
Anyway, I'm reading that the HD 600 will benefit from a better amp. I'm thinking about getting the O2 and was wondering if it's worth getting the O2 ODAC combo or just grabbing the O2 and plugging it into the unamped lineout of the E10. Would I be missing out on much/anything this way?
I spoke to Amazon, and they say I can still return the E10 for a full refund. The ODAC itself is still more expensive than the E10, though.
To sum up:
E10 -> O2 -> HD 600
or
ODAC -> O2 -> HD 600
or just stick with E10 -> HD600?
If anyone has any other suggestions, I would love to hear them, but I want to keep the price at a relatively low point.

Check out the Audio-GD NFB-15.32 external DAC/Amp, $255+shipping.

http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/Headphoneamp/NFB1532/NFB15.32EN.htm

post #5 of 15
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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post
 

Check out the Audio-GD NFB-15.32 external DAC/Amp, $255+shipping.

http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/Headphoneamp/NFB1532/NFB15.32EN.htm

Thanks for the suggestion! I would prefer to order from stores inside the EU, though, as the overall price can end up drastically higher due to taxes and import fees.

post #6 of 15
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Originally Posted by guywithtwohands View Post
 

Thanks for the suggestion! I would prefer to order from stores inside the EU, though, as the overall price can end up drastically higher due to taxes and import fees.

Audio-GD will claim a $100 value for shipping.

post #7 of 15
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Audio-GD will claim a $100 value for shipping.

That still makes the tax part rather expensive and in that case I'd rather just go for an O2+ODAC from Epiphany Acoustics in the UK... Or possibly just an O2 plugged into the E10. Still working on that one... I'm reading different reports. Some say that there isn't much difference between the ODAC and the DAC in the E10, whereas others say that by running a setup of E10 -> O2, the E10 will be a "weak link". One thing I've read about the E10 is that the soundstage is a little narrow.

 

It would be great if anyone has experience with a setup like this - or another setup involving the O2 and a cheaper DAC.

post #8 of 15
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Originally Posted by guywithtwohands View Post
 

That still makes the tax part rather expensive and in that case I'd rather just go for an O2+ODAC from Epiphany Acoustics in the UK... Or possibly just an O2 plugged into the E10. Still working on that one... I'm reading different reports. Some say that there isn't much difference between the ODAC and the DAC in the E10, whereas others say that by running a setup of E10 -> O2, the E10 will be a "weak link". One thing I've read about the E10 is that the sound stage is a little narrow.

 

It would be great if anyone has experience with a setup like this - or another setup involving the O2 and a cheaper DAC.

The WM8740 DAC chip used in the FiiO E10 is also used in the $600 A&K AK100 DAP.

But I would say just to spend the extra and get the ODAC/O2 combo.

post #9 of 15
It will work either way. You can use the E10 and connect the lineout to the input of the O2, or you can just get the O2+ODAC and do it all in one box.
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by billybob_jcv View Post

It will work either way. You can use the E10 and connect the lineout to the input of the O2, or you can just get the O2+ODAC and do it all in one box.

I know it'll work. I'm just trying to decide whether the ODAC is worth the extra money. I suppose it would be easiest to just get the combo unit and see. At least that way I should be set for a long time, yeah? Hah...

post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by guywithtwohands View Post
 

I know it'll work. I'm just trying to decide whether the ODAC is worth the extra money. I suppose it would be easiest to just get the combo unit and see. At least that way I should be set for a long time, yeah? Hah...

As I just realized you already have the E10, then just get the O2 for now, you can always replace the E10 in the future.

post #12 of 15
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As I just realized you already have the E10, then just get the O2 for now, you can always replace the E10 in the future.

Hmm.

 

Well, I haven't even had the E10 for two weeks, so I can still return it to Amazon for a refund (I contacted them to make sure) and put that money towards the ODAC. The E10 was ~£61. The O2 ODAC combo is £187, £87 more than the O2 is on its own. Thus the cost of getting an ODAC as well is rather low (if I return the E10). It just feels a little bit "sketchy" to return a product I've been using just about every day for a little over a week.

post #13 of 15

It's going to be hard to know if you will hear the difference between the E10 and the ODAC without giving it a try yourself. If the differences are subtle, would the extra money be worth it to you? Don't stretch your budget hoping for a huge difference. 

IMO it would be best to get the ODAC in the future, once the upgrade bug strikes again. Enjoy the improvement the O2 makes by itself for now. 

post #14 of 15
This is head-fi! Keep the E10 *and* buy the O2+ODAC. Come back and tell us the differences you hear or do not hear. It's only money, right?? tongue.giftongue.giftongue.gif
post #15 of 15
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Originally Posted by billybob_jcv View Post

This is head-fi! Keep the E10 *and* buy the O2+ODAC. Come back and tell us the differences you hear or do not hear. It's only money, right?? tongue.giftongue.giftongue.gif
Yeah... I'm just trying to keep myself from going all out crazy like I sort ended up doing with mechanical keyboards. 1 turned to 2 to 3 to 6 to 7.... But they're my friends now...

Anyway, I think I'll end up at least grabbing the O2, but we'll see if the combo unit somehow ends up in my basket instead... Time to sleep on it!
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