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Poll Results: Which one is to your fancy ?

 
  • 13% (33)
    HD6 DJ
  • 12% (29)
    HD7 DJ
  • 59% (142)
    HD8 DJ
  • 14% (35)
    None of them
239 Total Votes  
post #571 of 1097
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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post
 


And I'm dying to hear what you think of the HDJ8.  My 7's were so bassy I couldn't stand them..............nor the long cable which was proprietary.  So let us know buddy! 

 

 

well... first impressions aren't wow impressions. Though its harder for me to be wowed now a days I wouldnt say its because of that. These are pretty bassy.

 

compared to my yamaha on bass heavy songs they both hit as hard. Xanlamin was right about the yamaha having more rumble. Its because the housing on the yamaha along with its attack gives more freedom to the vibrations. I do like the rumble though. I dont think headphones should loose that all the way... it adds excitement. 

 

It makes a lot of sense for a headphone to have less rumble but more bass quantity. 

 

The thing I need to study more now is non bass heavy songs. The hd 8 dj does sound more bass heavy on those. I ran into an issue on the first male vocal track I played and it sounded muted in a way. I dont know how to explain it. Maybe like this:

 

When I am in the studio recording and then I go back into the mixing room to hear the playback they usually adjust my vocals right infront of me. If I add too much bass to my voice to make it sound more deep like I like, it messes up the clarity. It doesnt mean the take wasnt clear or the equipment isnt good quality but it takes the life out of it even though I want it more bassy. So often times I have to raise the upper mids of my vocal a little as well as the middle mids and almost leave the lower end of the vocal take alone. This isnt always the case but in general thats what we have to do.

 

To give an example: If I were to eq barry whites voice to make it sound clearer you would think I would curve the upper bass. Actually I would curve the lower mids and mids. Or say bob marley... I would add a little upper mids and middle mids. The lower mids or bass of the take is not where the pronunciation is.

 

How does that apply here... well that is exactly what I hear with the male vocals is that kind of sound when I ask them to put more bass in my voice. They have no life. Also the highs could be a little more present. I like dark headphones though but this has no air and is almost suffocating right now. That was my gripe about the 7520. @RPGWiZaRD I can see what he was guessing now and he was pretty correct. I dont think he would like them.

 

The sound has a lot of refinement to it though. This will take more time for sure. Its not a hit out of the park in one day listen. I really need to dive into them and study them more but this is what I gather on day one. It may be a bit too much info on day one with not even a full hour of music playing. 

 

 

Its not like the bass is sloppy booming all over the music. Some notes sound really clear and even clearer than my yamaha but the lower mids right now to me sound problematic. There must be an upper mid dip or something somewhere. I will mess with audioforge to try and figure it out. 

 

So far it seems that it does make non bass heavy music sound bass heavy a little. I ALSO NEED TO CHECK ON FEMALE VOCALS TOO. 

 

I am not firm on this from it being only one day. There is a ton to like about 'em. The isolation is amazing. The noise leakage is above average. The cups are smaller than I thought. the build is dope, actually the best build on a hp to date. Its extremely practical. I am not used to this much practicality in a headphone. Putting them on every time will take some getting used to. The features are perfect for a dj from an outsiders view. 


Edited by grizzlybeast - 3/11/14 at 10:27pm
post #572 of 1097
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

I really need to dive into them and study them more but this is what I gather on day one.

 

I think your impressions are pretty spot on.

 

Just play loud, there will be highs. :D They are made for that. But depends a lot on your genres.

post #573 of 1097
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Originally Posted by hekeli View Post
 

 

I think your impressions are pretty spot on.

 

Just play loud, there will be highs. :D They are made for that. But depends a lot on your genres.

how about I just play them on the FS thread. I am not upset about the lack of highs. Just how the vocals sound. I would have preferred the bass to be boomy into the mids over this. Atleast I could enjoy it on songs with little bass.

 

I tried to be nice but I am getting pissed actually.

 

There is a TON to like about them but they are not for me. If they are for me I wont give them a chance because I cant record with them. Ideally I wanted a durable headphone with good isolation and decent bass (dont care about highs, upper mids yes) and that could dual for plugging them in to do a decent vocal run. I expected too much and its my fault for doing so. Part of that was because Sennheiser is my fav hp company in midrange presentation but they are losing points. 

 

Just to vent...

 

they also need to learn how to add just a little width to the soundstage. I could swallow more of the problems of this hp if they spread it out a bit but there is no width or depth. 

 

Purely out of impulse/ emotion I will put these up for sale. Someone can have a brand new pair for 350 if they want it. Hopefully for their sake I dont take it out of the box and like them. Its possible. 

 

There are honeymoon stages and pissed off stages. The latter less common but applies to my experience with this headphone.


Edited by grizzlybeast - 3/11/14 at 11:00pm
post #574 of 1097
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

I would have preferred the bass to be boomy into the mids over this.

 

I guess you are referring to the small 200-300hz hole? Well anyway, if you are looking for something for such "vocal studio work", there's a good chance it being a miss. To me width/depth etc is what you could expect from such 100% closed small cupped phone etc, I don't feel it lacking there, I've heard worse.

post #575 of 1097
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Originally Posted by hekeli View Post
 

 

I guess you are referring to the small 200-300hz hole? Well anyway, if you are looking for something for such "vocal studio work", there's a good chance it being a miss. To me width/depth etc is what you could expect from such 100% closed small cupped phone etc, I don't feel it lacking there, I've heard worse.

I am venting and didnt look into it much but it does sound pretty closed in.

 

I knew It wasnt going to be "ideal" but I did want it to pass. Heck the hdj 2000 would pass and so would the Sony MDR-V700DJ, so would the hd 25(i am guessing cause people have used it there), so would the hdj 1000, heck even my pioneer hdj 500 would pass I have actually used that headphone to do a take before, thought it was a practice take.

 

So to clarify my hopes were for it to pass for practice takes and recording ideas. You cant eq during recording.

post #576 of 1097

Your previous Yamaha mt220 vs HD8 comparison just further strengthens my interest in those Yamaha, really have to give them a try it feels like even if I don't expect it to be much of an upgrade if at all compared to my Q40. But they sound like they would work well for monitoring/mastering which I do on a daily basis. The added bass boost is just welcome to me (I'm only doing hardstyle tracks which are bass-driven EDM music). I have a hard time believing the Yamaha are that powerful in the bass response rivalling the Sennheisers as those have pretty seriously boosted bass already. The lack of bass has been my only concern regarding the Yamaha MT220 in comparison to Q40 which have a very suitable bass quantity for my needs/preference.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 3/12/14 at 4:11am
post #577 of 1097
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Originally Posted by miazma View Post

Whoever is with me on the "HD8 is not for DJs", please do the same as I did and send Sennheiser a complaint explaining the problems with these headphones:

http://en-de.sennheiser.com/service-support-contact

It would have been nice to have a "Highs? Nah, gimme 100x Bass!" headphones and a "HD25 Over-Ear" model instead of HD8 and HD7 which are allmost the same. I still hope they will bring this out and still haven't found any DJ in my area who was happy with this headphones.

Please go slap your mother and tell her to stop giving you allowance.
post #578 of 1097
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Originally Posted by Eugguy View Post


Please go slap your mother and tell her to stop giving you allowance.

Please go ask your mother and tell her to teach you manners.

post #579 of 1097
I'm actually going to keep this. Everything sounds a lot better now. This hp needs a good amp to shine and some burn-in time. With my iCan, it actually sounds better than Sony 7520 and Yamaha MT220. Don't give up on this so soon. Try a different amp.
post #580 of 1097
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Originally Posted by xanlamin View Post

I'm actually going to keep this. Everything sounds a lot better now. This hp needs a good amp to shine and some burn-in time. With my iCan, it actually sounds better than Sony 7520 and Yamaha MT220. Don't give up on this so soon. Try a different amp.

Sounds like Grizzly and I had the same reaction, mine to the 7 and him to the 8. I tried them on seven different amps from portables to vintage and even a boom box.

Pity really as they have so much going for them. Except the sound.

I was going to ask Grizzly if I could try them since we live near each other but sounds like it wouldn't matter.
post #581 of 1097
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Originally Posted by miazma View Post
 

Whoever is with me on the "HD8 is not for DJs", please do the same as I did and send Sennheiser a complaint explaining the problems with these headphones:

 

http://en-de.sennheiser.com/service-support-contact

 

It would have been nice to have a "Highs? Nah, gimme 100x Bass!" headphones and a "HD25 Over-Ear" model instead of HD8 and HD7 which are allmost the same. I still hope they will bring this out and still haven't found any DJ in my area who was happy with this headphones.

I don't know why you are crying and complaining about any purchase. No one forced you into buying anything. There are plenty of DJ headphones on the market out there. Don't go crying to a major company about how they didn't create the perfect product for you. Now please, go slap your mom hard in the face and ask her to ground you. 

post #582 of 1097
Probably because he feels like he just threw nearly $400 down the toilet. If you don't think that's a big deal, please mail me either $400 or your HD8. And mail your attitude to Antarctica.
post #583 of 1097
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post
 

Your previous Yamaha mt220 vs HD8 comparison just further strengthens my interest in those Yamaha, really have to give them a try it feels like even if I don't expect it to be much of an upgrade if at all compared to my Q40. But they sound like they would work well for monitoring/mastering which I do on a daily basis. The added bass boost is just welcome to me (I'm only doing hardstyle tracks which are bass-driven EDM music). I have a hard time believing the Yamaha are that powerful in the bass response rivalling the Sennheisers as those have pretty seriously boosted bass already. The lack of bass has been my only concern regarding the Yamaha MT220 in comparison to Q40 which have a very suitable bass quantity for my needs/preference.

so it sounds like I contradict myself but I will put it this way.

the mix of the q40 leans more towards the hd8 side in that its balance makes the bass the emphasis. The yamaha bass in the mix or balance of it doesnt only make the bass the emphasis. You can listen to other parts as well and it doesnt make non bass heavy music bassy. The hd8 does make non bass heavy music bassy. But if you play the same track full of bass like a song that you can tell it was all about the bass then the yamaha morphs into what the song does and thumps as hard. The yamaha bass though may loose in tightness to both but only by a little. The thing about it is that it can rumble.

 

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Originally Posted by xanlamin View Post

I'm actually going to keep this. Everything sounds a lot better now. This hp needs a good amp to shine and some burn-in time. With my iCan, it actually sounds better than Sony 7520 and Yamaha MT220. Don't give up on this so soon. Try a different amp.

I can hear many qualities about the hd8dj that make it worthy and possibly best both. But here is one thing that I threw into my basket of hopes that I cant get over. MIDS and vocals. The yamaha at first had lower mids issues in murkiness but the levels were fine. This has a significant dip in the mids. I really want to see an official graph. It also doesnt seem to compensate for this dip in the upper mids. 

 

The other problem for me is that it actually NEEDS to work on my UAD apollo twin because that is the source which has a hp amp in it that I will be using to record at home. The UAD has little to no colorations and I cant eq it while trying to record some practice runs. I am willing to get say a German maestro 8.35 and sacrifice bass so I can have a portable and recording can.

 

During the duration of the FS post I will try them out more. My first impressions may change but I am not so sure about this one. I love its bass though. 

post #584 of 1097
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post

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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post

 

Your previous Yamaha mt220 vs HD8 comparison just further strengthens my interest in those Yamaha, really have to give them a try it feels like even if I don't expect it to be much of an upgrade if at all compared to my Q40. But they sound like they would work well for monitoring/mastering which I do on a daily basis. The added bass boost is just welcome to me (I'm only doing hardstyle tracks which are bass-driven EDM music). I have a hard time believing the Yamaha are that powerful in the bass response rivalling the Sennheisers as those have pretty seriously boosted bass already. The lack of bass has been my only concern regarding the Yamaha MT220 in comparison to Q40 which have a very suitable bass quantity for my needs/preference.





so it sounds like I contradict myself but I will put it this way.



the mix of the q40 leans more towards the hd8 side in that its balance makes the bass the emphasis. The yamaha bass in the mix or balance of it doesnt only make the bass the emphasis. You can listen to other parts as well and it doesnt make non bass heavy music bassy. The hd8 does make non bass heavy music bassy. But if you play the same track full of bass like a song that you can tell it was all about the bass then the yamaha morphs into what the song does and thumps as hard. The yamaha bass though may loose in tightness to both but only by a little. The thing about it is that it can rumble.



 



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Originally Posted by xanlamin View Post



I'm actually going to keep this. Everything sounds a lot better now. This hp needs a good amp to shine and some burn-in time. With my iCan, it actually sounds better than Sony 7520 and Yamaha MT220. Don't give up on this so soon. Try a different amp.



I can hear many qualities about the hd8dj that make it worthy and possibly best both. But here is one thing that I threw into my basket of hopes that I cant get over. MIDS and vocals. The yamaha at first had lower mids issues in murkiness but the levels were fine. This has a significant dip in the mids. I really want to see an official graph. It also doesnt seem to compensate for this dip in the upper mids. 



 



The other problem for me is that it actually NEEDS to work on my UAD apollo twin because that is the source which has a hp amp in it that I will be using to record at home. The UAD has little to no colorations and I cant eq it while trying to record some practice runs. I am willing to get say a German maestro 8.35 and sacrifice bass so I can have a portable and recording can.



 



During the duration of the FS post I will try them out more. My first impressions may change but I am not so sure about this one. I love its bass though. 


 



Would you agree with xanlamin that the HD8 sounds better than the 7520? I read your thoughts on the 7520.
post #585 of 1097
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post

 

I really want to see an official graph.

 

Sorry to burst your bubble, but there is no such thing as "official" graphs. :D Just different ones with different couplers and compensations used. Mine are very carefully done and averaged using an actual human head and not some cardboard box.

 

But I'm very curious to see if Tyll of someone popular does how they compare there.

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