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post #16 of 30
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Dude do your own research and stop asking us to spoonfeed you, we're here to help but not to answer every stupid question you have to ask. This forum is a wealth of information. With that being said, just go with this combination.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATH-M50WH-Professional-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B007GC4L7S/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1389513895&sr=8-2&keywords=audio+technica+ath-m50

 

^^^ Make sure you buy from an authorized retailer (AKA everyone listed here): http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/site/1e22eec97c088a8b/index.html

 

Also a good DAC that would support it with a built in AMP as well is this: http://www.amazon.com/FIIO-E17-Alpen-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B0070UFMOW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389513966&sr=8-1&keywords=fiio+e17

 

Fits your budget well huh?


I've spent the last week or so doing research in regard to headphones and managed to narrow down my selection to the M80 and LP2, as well as getting some basic information about them. I came here because I wished to hear the opinions of people that are much more knowledgeable on this topic than I am, hence the plethora of questions.

 

With that being said, how would those differ from the M80s or the LP2s? They're in the same price range and don't appear to offer much of anything additional in terms of outright features. In terms of comfort and music quality, how will they compare?

 

Thank you in advance.

post #17 of 30
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I've spent the last week or so doing research in regard to headphones and managed to narrow down my selection to the M80 and LP2, as well as getting some basic information about them. I came here because I wished to hear the opinions of people that are much more knowledgeable on this topic than I am, hence the plethora of questions.

 

With that being said, how would those differ from the M80s or the LP2s? They're in the same price range and don't appear to offer much of anything additional in terms of outright features. In terms of comfort and music quality, how will they compare?

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Hey umm personally I think the ones I posted would do you better. I own them myself and they are astounding. They are also only $130 which I am pretty sure is less than the M80's or the LP2's. Cheers.

post #18 of 30

Vegito,

 

There are numerous posts on M-80 and LP2, and on M-80 vs LP2...neither one are going to be awesome in the area of isolation, but they are decent and probably work out just fine for the majority of situations.  The ATH-M50 is a good recommendation, established, durable, great price, and folding design.  Also in your general price range, you could look at Senn HD-25 II  and the Sony MDR-1R.  You simply need to decide if fold-flat is good enough or if you really want a fold up joint or something that works with a nice little case.  Android cables are a real limiting factor, but easy enough to search on.... the "one button" cable from V-Moda is for android users.


Edited by Greggo - 1/12/14 at 6:05am
post #19 of 30
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Vegito,

 

There are numerous posts on M-80 and LP2, and on M-80 vs LP2...neither one are going to be awesome in the area of isolation, but they are decent and probably work out just fine for the majority of situations.  The ATH-M50 is a good recommendation, established, durable, great price, and folding design.  Also in your general price range, you could look at Senn HD-25 II  and the Sony MDR-1R.  You simply need to decide if fold-flat is good enough or if you really want a fold up joint or something that works with a nice little case.  Android cables are a real limiting factor, but easy enough to search on.... the "one button" cable from V-Moda is for android users.

 

As I said earlier, the ability to use a cable that is compatible with Android devices isn't a requirement, it's just a nice addition. If you have any suggestions that you would believe are better but don't have the android cable, I'd be happy to hear them.

post #20 of 30

You might want to consider the Martin Logan Mikros 90 closed portables.

About $90/shipped right now on Amazon.  Use the money saved to get an amp/dac.

post #21 of 30
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Originally Posted by pataburd View Post
 

You might want to consider the Martin Logan Mikros 90 closed portables.

About $90/shipped right now on Amazon.  Use the money saved to get an amp/dac.

^you should really look into this I love the Mikro 70 in ears

I want to know how those 90s sound like

post #22 of 30
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^you should really look into this I love the Mikro 70 in ears

I want to know how those 90s sound like

The Mikros 90:

In a nutshell: balanced, extended, highly resolving and musically satisfying.

post #23 of 30
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The Mikros 90:

In a nutshell: balanced, extended, highly resolving and musically satisfying.

What would you say comparing it to B&W P5 or P7?

I actually like love the Phiaton MS500. To my ears, it is superior to the B&Ws although its about $350 or so

post #24 of 30

Jeff Y,

Have not heard the P5 or the P7 (or the MS500), so I cannot comment there.  

 

You might want to float your inquiry on the dedicated Mikros 90 thread and ask the other folks here who are better qualified than I: http://www.head-fi.org/t/633514/martin-logan-mikros-90-on-ear-headphones 

 

Be forewarned: opinions are dichotomous/controversial.  But most of us who have owned longterm, enjoyed and subsequently endorsed the Mikros 90 have come to the consensus that (1) criticality of proper placement and/or (2) sub-par equipment and/or environmental conditions (in that order) have probably disuaded many who perhaps would have otherwise come to appreciate the MLs.  Individual listening preferences divide the opinions as well.  Unfortunately, many thread-subscribers may have reached their "guilty" verdict second- or even thirdhand, based on hearsay, without actually having heard the Mikros 90 themselves under sufficient conditions.

 

I have had relatively little exposure to supra-aurals and IEMs, so my reaction to and comparative assessment of the Mikros 90 are based primarily on a personal history of mid-to-upper mid-Fi circum-aural headphones (e.g. HifiMAN HE-500/5LE/6, AKG K701, Beyerdynamic DT880/600ohm & Tesla T1, Sennheiser HD-600/650, Ultrasone PRO750/2500/2900).  

 

To my ears, the Mikros 90 occupy the top tier among all the headphones I have heard/owned to date.  That is not tantamount to saying that they are "perfect" or the "be-all-and-end-all", but they do seem to bring together into one tidy and affordable package many of the listenability attributes that I, personally, consider critical: balance, clarity, frequency extension, high levels of detail/resolution, coherence, tonality, timbre, dynamics and sense of spatiality; but--most importantly--given all the Mikros 90's technical agility, these headphones ultimately produce a satisfyingly musical outcome.  

 

Too, I will posit that the Mikros 90 have more of a cerebral than visceral presentation, and have been catalogued by some reviewers as "gentlemanly" or "refined".  But these descriptors should not be taken to mean that the headphones are therefore uninvolving--far be it!  With the MLs, the listener takes a more active than passive role; these headphones favor one who wants to to hear the details of deep bass and not simply feel some bass.  While they lack the midbass hump/thick spot of many popular headphones, I have experienced clean, extended bass from the Mikros 90 that seemed to shake the ground below me.

 

 . . . O.K., O.K.  (they've just administered me the smelling salts), you must have gotten the impression by now that I am a shameless proponent of the Martin Logan Mikros 90.  Take this query to the dedicated Mikros 90 thread and get more feedback there.

 

Yours Truly (while gradually coming out of a hyperventilated state),

pataburd


Edited by pataburd - 1/14/14 at 6:27am
post #25 of 30
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Originally Posted by Jeff Y View Post
 

What would you say comparing it to B&W P5 or P7?

I actually like love the Phiaton MS500. To my ears, it is superior to the B&Ws although its about $350 or so

Jeff Y,

Go to the bottom of page 17 on the Mikros 90 thread:  http://www.head-fi.org/t/633514/martin-logan-mikros-90-on-ear-headphones 

slfan just answered your question about how the Mikros 90 and B&W P5/P7 compare.

pataburd

post #26 of 30
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Originally Posted by pataburd View Post
 

Jeff Y,

Go to the bottom of page 17 on the Mikros 90 thread:  http://www.head-fi.org/t/633514/martin-logan-mikros-90-on-ear-headphones 

slfan just answered your question about how the Mikros 90 and B&W P5/P7 compare.

pataburd

thanks for long thought and the link

post #27 of 30
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Originally Posted by pataburd View Post
 

Jeff Y,

Have not heard the P5 or the P7 (or the MS500), so I cannot comment there.  

 

You might want to float your inquiry on the dedicated Mikros 90 thread and ask the other folks here who are better qualified than I: http://www.head-fi.org/t/633514/martin-logan-mikros-90-on-ear-headphones 

 

Be forewarned: opinions are dichotomous/controversial.  But most of us who have owned longterm, enjoyed and subsequently endorsed the Mikros 90 have come to the consensus that (1) criticality of proper placement and/or (2) sub-par equipment and/or environmental conditions (in that order) have probably disuaded many who perhaps would have otherwise come to appreciate the MLs.  Individual listening preferences divide the opinions as well.  Unfortunately, many thread-subscribers may have reached their "guilty" verdict second- or even thirdhand, based on hearsay, without actually having heard the Mikros 90 themselves under sufficient conditions.

 

I have had relatively little exposure to supra-aurals and IEMs, so my reaction to and comparative assessment of the Mikros 90 are based primarily on a personal history of mid-to-upper mid-Fi circum-aural headphones (e.g. HifiMAN HE-500/5LE/6, AKG K701, Beyerdynamic DT880/600ohm & Tesla T1, Sennheiser HD-600/650, Ultrasone PRO750/2500/2900).  

 

To my ears, the Mikros 90 occupy the top tier among all the headphones I have heard/owned to date.  That is not tantamount to saying that they are "perfect" or the "be-all-and-end-all", but they do seem to bring together into one tidy and affordable package many of the listenability attributes that I, personally, consider critical: balance, clarity, frequency extension, high levels of detail/resolution, coherence, tonality, timbre, dynamics and sense of spatiality; but--most importantly--given all the Mikros 90's technical agility, these headphones ultimately produce a satisfyingly musical outcome.  

 

Too, I will posit that the Mikros 90 have more of a cerebral than visceral presentation, and have been catalogued by some reviewers as "gentlemanly" or "refined".  But these descriptors should not be taken to mean that the headphones are therefore uninvolving--far be it!  With the MLs, the listener takes a more active than passive role; these headphones favor one who wants to to hear the details of deep bass and not simply feel some bass.  While they lack the midbass hump/thick spot of many popular headphones, I have experienced clean, extended bass from the Mikros 90 that seemed to shake the ground below me.

 

 . . . O.K., O.K.  (they've just administered me the smelling salts), you must have gotten the impression by now that I am a shameless proponent of the Martin Logan Mikros 90.  Take this query to the dedicated Mikros 90 thread and get more feedback there.

 

Yours Truly (while gradually coming out of a hyperventilated state),

pataburd

now i just have to figure out where I can have a listen

post #28 of 30

because there were posts that the mikro 90's sound signature is close to the one of 70s I will definitely get them in hopefully in the near future. Love the mikro 70s too. My priorities is set for a new dac and a possible upgrade to Ultra-Linear edition of the Graham Slee Solo SRG2 that I got. Maybe a new amp around 1100.

post #29 of 30

from what I've heard and seen, I feel like the mikros are the king of its class. Hope they make a over-ear version of it soon. KEF was potent but after a long listen thought it was not refined enough and not enough bass even considering that I am a Grado fan(part time I guess). Bass out of the kefs seemed somewhat artificial and lacking.

post #30 of 30
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Originally Posted by Jeff Y View Post
 

from what I've heard and seen, I feel like the mikros are the king of its class. Hope they make a over-ear version of it soon. KEF was potent but after a long listen thought it was not refined enough and not enough bass even considering that I am a Grado fan(part time I guess). Bass out of the kefs seemed somewhat artificial and lacking.

I agree.  

 

The KEF's bass ultimately degenerates into boominess.  The M500 are FAR behind the Mikros 90 in detail retrieval, frequency extension and tonal aptitude.  At high volumes, the KEFs start to sound hard and confined compared with the MLs.  

 

Sold my KEFs last week with no regrets whatsoever.

 

The fact that the MLs deliver such stellar performance from such an unassuming portable package only adds to their "mystique" and makes me appreciate these gems even more.  In many ways they better most of the full-size cans I have owned or do own.  If it were possible for Martin Logan to design and market an over-the-ear product that exceeds the capabilities of the Mikros 90 . . .  Now THAT would REALLY BE SOMETHING.


Edited by pataburd - 1/15/14 at 4:09am
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