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post #91 of 132
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Hmm, I'll second vwinter's question and add that this standard is for over-the-ear headphones, not earphones. Same with diffuse field and FF measures. Audio engineers now know that the ear canal has its own resonances and these need to be compensated for by canalphones in a way that over-the-ear headphones may not need as much. So, a canalphone that precisely matched the Olive curve (impossible, you may say), may not sound very nice at all!

That is why I asked if it is even possible to have such an standard for IEM.

 

In my view that headphone might be able to match the experience that a pair of good stereo setup can give us but no matter how good an IEM is design is the obvious  limitation will be on how it is not using the out ear for music capturing.

As one of my friend who has a very decent vinyl setup (his setup cost under 2K so nothing fancy at all) after auditioning my AK120 and Ck100PRO he did like what he heard but he said the entire experience was claustrophobic for him and he really requires a lot of getting used to.  He pointed out that the source or the AMP must find a way to digitally compensate for not using the outer ear for capturing the sound , he is very skeptical when it comes to IEM sound reproduction. He believes IEM is meant for stage performers and they not require the same level of music reproduction as a relax home listener does. 

post #92 of 132

I listen from the bottom up, so I am always keen to see what people think about the bass response of various iems and headphones.That said, I wonder how many people who comment on the sound of iems, etc. have heard a truly full-range speaker system, or a live acoustic performance to calibrate their notions of a correct amount and type of bass....

 

Seems to me that a number of iems that aim for an 'audiophile' sound are like so-called mini-monitors that imaged really well, but were tonally anemic.  Some were saved by the psycho-acoustic phenomenon that time-coherent speakers allow the brain to fill in the missing fundamental tone, making some mini-monitors sound like they 'have more bass than they really do'.  This is not an oxymoron, however counter-intuitive it may seem.

 

So, in those terms, do the N6's sound like full range speakers in terms of their bass performance?  Not bass monsters, not bass-head material, but 'cohones'

 

How about in comparison to the ASG2, the 1plus2, and the 334, just to name a few.

 

Thanks!


Edited by fzman - 1/21/14 at 1:25pm
post #93 of 132

Nice review Eke, somehow I missed this when you posted it.

Looking forward to your K3003 observations. 

post #94 of 132

darn!  just when I get my pair of N6, this thread dies......   

post #95 of 132

No it need not die fzman :normal_smile :

 

Received my Universal Noble 6 IEMs today.

After 2 hours listening on My Cowan X7 (prefer to my AK100) to test against various tracks of Classical or Serious Music I can report that they are terrific with an enormous soundstage in depth and height and from front to back and a fair amount of width and breadth. I rate them as possibly as good as my Sennheiser HD800 open overear phones for classical music. Great clarity and separation of instruments and voices especially in combined choir with soloists. Clear and bright treble but not harsh like the AKG 3003. I tried old 60s recordings and new recent ones from 2013. Tracks used:

Tuur Akarmine (The awakening) is my best test track of very modern Estonian music.

Veljo Tormis: The Curse of Iron and Litany of Thunder

Arvo Part: Kanon Pokajanen

Tartini: from Complete Violin Concertos (Dynamic CDs)

Beethoven: Symphonies recorded live by Rotterdam SO

Lorraine Hunt: Handel Arias

Victoria de Los Angeles: Songs of the Auvergne oldish recording

Schubert: Arpeggione Sonata (Lyn Harrell) oldish recording

Liszt: Various piano by Lugansky

Schumann: Hamelin Etudes Symphonique

Reynaldo Hahn: L’Heure Equisite (Verlaine) sung by Felicty Lott

Reynaldo Hahn: L’Heure Equisite (Verlaine) Countertenor Jaroussky

Arias for Cafarrelli: Countertenor Franco Fagioli

Bach JS: Partitas for Solo Violin (Tetzlaf)

Mozart: Clarinet Quintet (Hagen Quartet)

Biber: Missa Allejuija (Konrad Junghanel)

Brahms: Complete Variations Garrick Ohlsson

Rachmaninov Vespers (Latvian Radio Choir)

 

Obviously I have many more hours of listening before I can make any more detailed comments.

But I am very happy today with my N6 choice

 

 

 

 

post #96 of 132
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No it need not die fzman :normal_smile :

 

Received my Universal Noble 6 IEMs today.

After 2 hours listening on My Cowan X7 (prefer to my AK100) to test against various tracks of Classical or Serious Music I can report that they are terrific with an enormous soundstage in depth and height and from front to back and a fair amount of width and breadth. I rate them as possibly as good as my Sennheiser HD800 open overear phones for classical music. Great clarity and separation of instruments and voices especially in combined choir with soloists. Clear and bright treble but not harsh like the AKG 3003. I tried old 60s recordings and new recent ones from 2013. Tracks used:

Tuur Akarmine (The awakening) is my best test track of very modern Estonian music.

Veljo Tormis: The Curse of Iron and Litany of Thunder

Arvo Part: Kanon Pokajanen

Tartini: from Complete Violin Concertos (Dynamic CDs)

Beethoven: Symphonies recorded live by Rotterdam SO

Lorraine Hunt: Handel Arias

Victoria de Los Angeles: Songs of the Auvergne oldish recording

Schubert: Arpeggione Sonata (Lyn Harrell) oldish recording

Liszt: Various piano by Lugansky

Schumann: Hamelin Etudes Symphonique

Reynaldo Hahn: L’Heure Equisite (Verlaine) sung by Felicty Lott

Reynaldo Hahn: L’Heure Equisite (Verlaine) Countertenor Jaroussky

Arias for Cafarrelli: Countertenor Franco Fagioli

Bach JS: Partitas for Solo Violin (Tetzlaf)

Mozart: Clarinet Quintet (Hagen Quartet)

Biber: Missa Allejuija (Konrad Junghanel)

Brahms: Complete Variations Garrick Ohlsson

Rachmaninov Vespers (Latvian Radio Choir)

 

Obviously I have many more hours of listening before I can make any more detailed comments.

But I am very happy today with my N6 choice

 

 

 

 

 

 

It was a pleasure working with you

Dr. John Moulton

Here at Noble, we craft some of the finest universal and custom in-ear monitors available today. 

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post #97 of 132

I am liking mine more and more every day.  I just today connected the ALO Coper 22 cable to them, and think that it is better than the stock cable, but I have not gone back to it yet (I am worried about too-frequent cable swaps being bad for the connectors....  I like the ergonomics of the stock cable waaaay better, the ALO being stiffer, and also has right angle iem connectors.....

 

Anyone else have any other suggestions for aternative cables?  I am not a huge fan of silver, so preference would be for copper cable recommendations, but would love to hear what others are using.  Thanks for reading this.

post #98 of 132
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I am liking mine more and more every day.  I just today connected the ALO Coper 22 cable to them, and think that it is better than the stock cable, but I have not gone back to it yet (I am worried about too-frequent cable swaps being bad for the connectors....  I like the ergonomics of the stock cable waaaay better, the ALO being stiffer, and also has right angle iem connectors.....

Anyone else have any other suggestions for aternative cables?  I am not a huge fan of silver, so preference would be for copper cable recommendations, but would love to hear what others are using.  Thanks for reading this.

As I've ordered my n6 today, I'm quite interested in seeing what else I could to do improve my listening experience.

Though I only ordered them hours ago, I feel like I've been waiting weeks!
post #99 of 132
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As I've ordered my n6 today, I'm quite interested in seeing what else I could to do improve my listening experience.

Though I only ordered them hours ago, I feel like I've been waiting weeks!

 

I'm using mine with the Double Helix copper cables, and have the copper litz on order.  These are great-sounding cables and they have good ergonomics  I bought some connectors and have some Jena Labs cable to tgry as well, but have not had time to build them yet...

 

I hope you like your N6s, they are quite damn good!!!!!

post #100 of 132
Thanks for that Fzman. I've never put my own cable together, but it seems like it could be a good idea to start.

For anyone who is curious on delivery times to the UK: I ordered mine yesterday, and UPS tell me the package will be with me one Monday, customs depending of course. Personally, I think that's awesome.
post #101 of 132

They don't take long to arrive in the UK. Ordered mine on Monday evening and got them on Thursday. Now my only problem is what dap to get now. :D

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They don't take long to arrive in the UK. Ordered mine on Monday evening and got them on Thursday. Now my only problem is what dap to get now. biggrin.gif

Very happy with that smily_headphones1.gif

Which do you have in mind?
post #103 of 132

N6 arrived yesterday, as expected. Very impressed with the delivery.

 

Not going to give any detailed impressions yet, as I've only used them for a few of hours. All I'll say for now, is that they sound great so far, and are getting better as I listen to them(brain burn etc.). Thumbs up from Dan.

 

Currently playing around with the tips. The foamies seem to be giving me the best seal, along with the better sound as a result. What are you guys using?

post #104 of 132
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Originally Posted by odevans View Post
 

N6 arrived yesterday, as expected. Very impressed with the delivery.

 

Not going to give any detailed impressions yet, as I've only used them for a few of hours. All I'll say for now, is that they sound great so far, and are getting better as I listen to them(brain burn etc.). Thumbs up from Dan.

 

Currently playing around with the tips. The foamies seem to be giving me the best seal, along with the better sound as a result. What are you guys using?

 

 

Congrats!

 

I liked the red core tips, but ultimately settled on aftermarket Ortofons.

post #105 of 132
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Congrats!

 

I liked the red core tips, but ultimately settled on aftermarket Ortofons.

 

Which of their tips did you go for? 

 

I have to travel for 5 - 6.5 hours by train every Friday and Sunday, so I'm very interested in their 'Isolation Plus' tips. Any experience?

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