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post #16 of 132

^^  Thanks eke, I think you make your preference abundantly clear, much appreciated!!!

 

I'd love to see your comparison of the N6 w/ the SE846, so hopefully, that comp is possible down the road.

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eke just a question about my beloved fischer amps fa 4e do you think they are comparable to these 6 driver iems or is there much difference in sq between them?


Edited by Kurdt-bada - 1/11/14 at 1:16pm
post #18 of 132
Thanks for the nice review.

As a counterpoint, a friend and I both returned our sennheiser ie800's after a week with a prototype Noble 6. The ie800, to our ears, had more bass, but the overall tuning of the N6 won out, in particular the treble. I think as we hear more N6 owners chime in, we may find few who think the N6 is as overly bass-weighted as you've heard.
Although, it certainly has some heft to it's lower end to balance the treble.

Thanks again!
Edited by Kunlun - 1/11/14 at 1:27pm
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eke just a question about my beloved fischer amps fa 4e do you think they are comparable to these 6 driver iems or is there much difference in sq between them?

Driver count isn't necessarily indicative of better sound. Implementation and tuning matter more. I'd personally pit the single driver FAD "moving BAs" against anything out there, and the Ety ER-4 still holds strong against modern designs, decades later

FWIW, I had a listen to the FA-04 a few months back and it sounded as good as anything I've personally heard
post #20 of 132
With the fa 04 do you mean the fa 4e? And with as good as anything do you mean sounded good but not too good?

Sorry but my eng is average

Edit i understand now what you said smily_headphones1.gif
Edited by Kurdt-bada - 1/11/14 at 2:25pm
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Thanks for the nice review.

As a counterpoint, a friend and I both returned our sennheiser ie800's after a week with a prototype Noble 6. The ie800, to our ears, had more bass, but the overall tuning of the N6 won out, in particular the treble. I think as we hear more N6 owners chime in, we may find few who think the N6 is as overly bass-weighted as you've heard.
Although, it certainly has some heft to it's lower end to balance the treble.

Thanks again!

 

Thanks for the input, but I don't see how yours is a counterpoint. I was referring to the IE800's midrange presentation. I also remarked how the N6's and IE800's respective bass emphases are reversed, with the IE800 highly favoring sub-bass, and the N6 being heavily mid-bass favored.

 

 

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eke just a question about my beloved fischer amps fa 4e do you think they are comparable to these 6 driver iems or is there much difference in sq between them?

 

 

Honestly, I find the FA-4E to be no worse than anything I've heard. My main judge of "top-tierdom" is how refined an iem is, along with things like texturing and realism. Tuning preferences are subjective. The FA-4 lived up to that.

post #22 of 132
Thanks for your honest impressions it seems companies are increasing their prices because people demand more but it also seems more isn't always better
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Thanks for your honest impressions it seems companies are increasing their prices because people demand more but it also seems more isn't always better

 

 

I think some back story should be told about the N6.   The N6 is in no form or fashion supposed to be a "Reference IEM" nore is it supposed to be a "Bass Monster."

 

It was designed to deliver more bass than the N4, which is a product more leaning toward a reference style monitor. The very mission of the N6 was to address the comments that sometimes describe the N4 as a bass anemic product, a product that "Mimics" bass rather than delivers bass.  Statements show that the N6 does deliver bass, but yet still maintains good highs (see the above comparisons between the SE6 etc etc)

 

In order to achieve that bass, more drivers were necessary, more soldering time, and more assembly time is required, naturally prices will reflect that.

 

Over all I greatly appreciate Ekes review. As I don't want people in search of a reference style monitor purchasing the N6 with the wrong expectations.  If someone wants a monitor more leaning toward a reference sound, the N4 is more appropriate for that, but if some one wants some reference characteristics such as good telling highs, but yet wants some fast "bass kick" the N6 is a better choice.

 

 

The N6 product discription taken directly from the website:

 

~Our flagship universal IEM, the Noble 6, is an adaptation of the present four-driver design. With the addition of two unique drivers, the low-end is considerably filled out while soundstage has expanded building upon what is already a natural, airy, space. Mids and highs were not disregarded in the design process either, the Noble 6 is characterized by smooth mids and highs with great extenion at the top end.

 

 

 

Does that make the N6 better than the N4? It does if a stronger bass response is what you like, but the N4 is also better if you like a reference style sound. (N4 is cheaper due to parts, build time etc etc) Noble products aren't priced based upon which product is "better," as "better" is a subjective mark, not a monetary reality. 

 

 

Here is a fellow head fier's opinion regarding the N4 v/s the N6 (as he owns both)

 

~ Originally Posted by Deviltooth View Post Comparing the N4 to the N6 directly do you find the latter to be obviously superior with better dynamics? How much sub bass are you getting for the extra dollars?

 

 

The increased bass level which I feel is very well implemented, no upper bass, or at least very little, that bleeds into the mid range. I would say that I experience that the sub bass level to be increased by 4-6 DB, could be higher. It overall gives the N6 a slightly warmer sound presentation and the treble is a tad smoother but with similar extension as the N4. Sound stage is larger, particular in front/back so that as well helps to give a sense of better dynamics. To me the N4 offers a better value than the N6 but I'm also very biased by preferring a more neutral type of sound presentation. The type of music/genre makes a rather big difference as well.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/684787/noble-audio-the-wizard-returns/1290


Edited by FullCircle - 1/11/14 at 9:20pm

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Here at Noble, we craft some of the finest universal and custom in-ear monitors available today. 

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post #24 of 132
A good explanation above I think i would like the n6 better than the n4 from the description
post #25 of 132
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A good explanation above I think i would like the n6 better than the n4 from the description

 

 

For me;

 

when I listen to this song.....    The N6 is by far my preferred IEM

 

Dr. John Moulton

Here at Noble, we craft some of the finest universal and custom in-ear monitors available today. 

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post #26 of 132

I just don't like "bloated" bass.  I admit I might be reading things wrong, but when I see things like "mid bass emphasis" it makes me think of bass bloat (as in, interfering w/ the mids).  Now, I love me some SUB bass, when the track calls for it.  I'd like to try the N6, but not for what could amount to a $200 re-stocking fee.  I'll be doing some traveling for work over the next few months.  Maybe I'll get lucky & be somewhere close to a head-fi meet where they will be available for a listen.  I wish I could get over my hang-ups about customs, otherwise I'd simply roll the dice w/ the K10, since they seem to be universally praised.  I will say, I really like Noble's styling sensibilities.

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I just don't like "bloated" bass.  I admit I might be reading things wrong, but when I see things like "mid bass emphasis" it makes me think of bass bloat (as in, interfering w/ the mids).  Now, I love me some SUB bass, when the track calls for it.  I'd like to try the N6, but not for what could amount to a $200 re-stocking fee.  I'll be doing some traveling for work over the next few months.  Maybe I'll get lucky & be somewhere close to a head-fi meet where they will be available for a listen.  I wish I could get over my hang-ups about customs, otherwise I'd simply roll the dice w/ the K10, since they seem to be universally praised.  I will say, I really like Noble's styling sensibilities.

 

there is absolutely nothing bloated about the N6 sound.

post #28 of 132
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there is absolutely nothing bloated about the N6 sound.

Not my experience either...I think the bass levels(sub/mid/upper) settles in very nicely and are not really bothering anything else or me at least. How much bass emphasis anyone prefers is basically a pure personal preference..

post #29 of 132
It's a bit bass light for my liking but it's a good contrast to what I normally use.
post #30 of 132

thanks again the for comparison against SEM6

 

now would nice to have an impression after a cable change, i think either a pure silver litz cable or a silver/gold alloy cable will bring the N6 up another level :beerchug:

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