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post #46 of 67
5/7/04 at 7:57pm
I can't see the future, out of sight is out of mind, so getting a big hard drive and filling it with wav files will be great till the future arives.
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post #47 of 67
5/7/04 at 8:48pm
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Originally Posted by Rink111
I can't see the future, out of sight is out of mind, so getting a big hard drive and filling it with wav files will be great till the future arives.
The future never arrives, by the time it does it's always "now" . Sounds like a waste of space to me (when you can get around 50% with lossless compression, meaning twice as many files in the same space), but whatever works for you.
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post #48 of 67
5/7/04 at 9:07pm
You'll get much better than 10MB savings, first. And APE isn't that much better than FLAC either. See comparison page for details. (and don't start about how it's biased; Monkey's Audio has the same chart at their site) MA, at 'normal' setting, took 13:27.96 seconds to encode a 14-track CD, resulting in a 393.17MB file. (from an original size of 780.56MB) FLAC, at -5 (normal, and BTW, don't go above normal on any lossless encoder. The size difference really isn't worth the time) took 12:54.19, resulting in a 413.46 MB file. That's a 38.29MB size difference, and a 121.95 seconds time difference. But what's particularly telling is the decode times. 14:31.90 for Monkey's Audio, 7:08.80 for FLAC. That's more than twice as fast. This is why FLAC has been implemented in portable devices; as it's fast enough for the relatively puny CPUs in those to decode them in real time. Also, of course, FLAC is GPL'd, which is less restrictive than MA's open source model.

So, in the end, you just have to decide what you like. I myself like FLAC, for it's fast decode time (I do a lot of lossy codec testing, where I have to decode entire albums), GPL licensing, and it's better multi-platform support.

Oh yeah, these encode/decode times were tested with a PII-333 with 256MB of RAM, running WinNT 4.0 SP5.

(-:Stephonovich:-)
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post #49 of 67
5/7/04 at 9:12pm
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Originally Posted by Stephonovich
So, in the end, you just have to decide what you like. I myself like FLAC, for it's fast decode time (I do a lot of lossy codec testing, where I have to decode entire albums), GPL licensing, and it's better multi-platform support.


(-:Stephonovich:-)
I have no loyalties to monkeys. Is there a way to get FLAC to encode in the background like Monkey's Audio and LAME can with EAC (one button press)?

-Ed
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post #50 of 67
5/7/04 at 9:23pm
Yes, actually, there is. A very long command string inputted in the 'Additional Command Line Options' under Compression Options (F11). Also make sure 'User Defined Encoder' is selected, as well as having FLAC 1.04 or later. (1.1.0 is the latest)

-T "artist=%a" -T "title=%t" -T "album=%g" -T "date=%y" -T "tracknumber=%n" -T "genre=%m" %s

I used it a few times, and didn't particularly like it. I don't remember why, however. I'm sure I had a good reason But try it, anyway, and see how you like it.

(-:Stephonovich:-)
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post #51 of 67
5/7/04 at 10:06pm
I use EAC and FLAC. I just use EAC to rip to WAV, and put each each CD into a different folder. Once I have a bunch of CDs ready to encode I drag all the WAV files into the FLAC front end and hit encode - it's very quick to encode.

btw you can use the windows find command to make dragging all the files into flac easier.
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post #52 of 67
5/7/04 at 10:58pm
The good thing about WAV is that when something better than FLAC arrives in a few years, you won't need to convert FLAC to WAV then WAV to the new format. Of course, that's if you've got 200gb of space. If you're trying to fit it on a DAP, then by all means use FLAC or APE.
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post #53 of 67
5/7/04 at 11:07pm
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Originally Posted by taylor
The good thing about WAV is that when something better than FLAC arrives in a few years, you won't need to convert FLAC to WAV then WAV to the new format. Of course, that's if you've got 200gb of space. If you're trying to fit it on a DAP, then by all means use FLAC or APE.

Encoding or decoding to flac/ape is suprisingly quick, so even 100GB of music (20 CDs) wouldn't take too long.
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post #54 of 67
5/7/04 at 11:15pm
How do you get 20 CDs = 100GB? WOuldn't it be closer to 10GB? I mean, 5GB is more than a CD holds.
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post #55 of 67
5/8/04 at 1:12am
Um, yeah. I've got 56 albums ripped into FLAC -5, taking up a whopping 21GB. That's better than 2:1.

(-:Stephonovich:-)
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post #56 of 67
5/8/04 at 4:15pm
Thread Starter 
w00t! I just installed the flac plug-in for winamp! Time to get some FLAC music now
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post #57 of 67
5/8/04 at 10:00pm
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Originally Posted by jaK
w00t! I just installed the flac plug-in for winamp! Time to get some FLAC music now
Time to download EAC!
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post #58 of 67
5/8/04 at 10:20pm
Edit -- ehh, better not say anything.
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post #59 of 67
5/9/04 at 1:51am
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Originally Posted by taylor
Time to download EAC!
What's EAC?
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post #60 of 67
5/9/04 at 1:55am
Exact Audio Copier. Google for it. It's the best CD ripper program around, IMHO. It doesn't work on my work PC, so I use CDEx there.
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