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post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 

Hey!

 

I'm still relatively new to this website, and hoping I can get some info from people who have experienced both of these headphones.

 

I have a few questions, but will list a few things about myself that can further help any possible recommendations.

 

- I'm a gamer

- Money isn't an issue

- Music I listen to ranges from Drum and Base/Trance all the way up to Classical/Jazz

- Lack of comfort could be a huge deal breaker (no (p)leather)

- Open Back is preferred

 

Now that's out of the way, I will ask questions, but don't feel shy to add any extra input to further backup your experiences.

 

- Does the Beyer's cover over the ear, or does the padding rest on your ear like the Sennheisers?

- Personally which one do you feel sounds better and why?

- Would having a pair of headphones with an amplifier increase the quality, or just adjust the correct ohms so the headphones fully function correctly?

- Is in pair of headphone significantly heavier than the other (plastic vs metal)?

 

 

Thank you very much for checking out this thread and leaving reply.  More questions may arise, but I'm keeping it as short and sweet as possible for now.

 

I look forward to a decision!

post #2 of 22

The DT 880 (former Beyer Flagship) is the better can, but it may not be the best for you vs. the very good HD 598.  The Beyer is more detailed, extended (bass & treble) and faster, but it is also a bit bright.

 

Both fit over my ears, but your mileage may vary.  Neither is heavy to me.

 

Once again on this forum I’ll mention that headphone comfort is a very individual thing.  We can point you to headphones that are generally considered to be comfortable and mention others that have garnered complaints for being uncomfortable.  However, the only way to know for sure is to wear them yourself for a time equivalent to your longest listening session.  I find the HD 598 to be a bit more comfortable, but your experience may be different.

 

There is really no substitute for trying them both (and perhaps others) yourself.  You can learn more about both by reading the reviews on them here (Head Gear tab) and elsewhere.  Also the Flagships article linked on the first page of this thread covers the 600 Ohm Premium version of the DT 880, which is very similar to the flavor you are considering.

post #3 of 22
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post
 

The DT 880 (former Beyer Flagship) is the better can, but it may not be the best for you vs. the very good HD 598.  The Beyer is more detailed, extended (bass & treble) and faster, but it is also a bit bright.

 

Both fit over my ears, but your mileage may vary.  Neither is heavy to me.

 

Once again on this forum I’ll mention that headphone comfort is a very individual thing.  We can point you to headphones that are generally considered to be comfortable and mention others that have garnered complaints for being uncomfortable.  However, the only way to know for sure is to wear them yourself for a time equivalent to your longest listening session.  I find the HD 598 to be a bit more comfortable, but your experience may be different.

 

There is really no substitute for trying them both (and perhaps others) yourself.  You can learn more about both by reading the reviews on them here (Head Gear tab) and elsewhere.  Also the Flagships article linked on the first page of this thread covers the 600 Ohm Premium version of the DT 880, which is very similar to the flavor you are considering.

+1

You might have to worry about open headphones in general (except for the Fidelio X1) for Drum and Bass and bassy genres.

post #4 of 22
Thread Starter 
Hey!

Thank you very much for the timely reply!

I have a few detailed questions to add to what you said. Beforehand; I agree whole heartedly in regards to comfort being very subjective. I was mainly aiming to get some personal opinions without taking them too literally.

The main thing that's making me scratch my head is you said the Beyer's are "a bit bright". What did you mean by that (figure you don't mean the color of items itself lol).

Next is for my PC; would be it be redundant to get the 300ohms version of the Beyer's with an amp rather than a lower ohms version without amp? Would the sound technically be the same?

Lastly, are the cans for both headphones the same size?

Thanks again!
post #5 of 22
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Originally Posted by Trunks159 View Post

+1
You might have to worry about open headphones in general (except for the Fidelio X1) for Drum and Bass and bassy genres.

How come?

I personally have the HD 598's and find the base quite healthy. I was having second thoughts about my choice when I was super close getting the Beyer's.
post #6 of 22

Oh OK then.  The DT880 has a little more bass than the HD598.  They're also a bit brighter (more emphasis in the treble, mainly around 10khz)

post #7 of 22
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Originally Posted by Trunks159 View Post

Oh OK then.  The DT880 has a little more bass than the HD598.  They're also a bit brighter (more emphasis in the treble, mainly around 10khz)


Thanks for the quick reply. Jeez I was missing out not finding this website sooner.

I feel bad. I feel as if I'm asking the noobish questions of the year but you've already been so helpful. Did you see my second post of the thread? Could you maybe touch up on some of questions there (like about the ohms)?

Oh, and new question: Will I find much quality difference going from the open to semi-open model? I mainly like to hear myself talk when I'm on Skype without having to remove one ear off.
Edited by Yujiza - 1/9/14 at 6:02pm
post #8 of 22

No, the DT880 is basically an open headphone.  Howver, the DT880 is only a small improvement to the HD598.  If you get the DT880, you'll notice the improvement, especially if you have a strong amp (more like only lol), but you may have have some regrets.

 

The ohm versions are basically the same.  Just get the 250 ohm version.  You'll need an amp though.  The Fiio X3 portable DAP can drive them.  I'd recommend the Schiit Magni.

post #9 of 22
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Trunks159 View Post
 

No, the DT880 is basically an open headphone.  Howver, the DT880 is only a small improvement to the HD598.  If you get the DT880, you'll notice the improvement, especially if you have a strong amp (more like only lol), but you may have have some regrets.

 

The ohm versions are basically the same.  Just get the 250 ohm version.  You'll need an amp though.  The Fiio X3 portable DAP can drive them.  I'd recommend the Schiit Magni.

 

Regrets?  Like what? O.o

post #10 of 22

The soundstage is about the same, the signature isn't all that different, the DT880 is a little bit faster and has better extensions.  Also more revealing.  These aren't marginal improvements (except for maybe spees, and even that can be difficult to hear).

post #11 of 22
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Originally Posted by Yujiza View Post

Hey!

Thank you very much for the timely reply!

I have a few detailed questions to add to what you said. Beforehand; I agree whole heartedly in regards to comfort being very subjective. I was mainly aiming to get some personal opinions without taking them too literally.

The main thing that's making me scratch my head is you said the Beyer's are "a bit bright". What did you mean by that (figure you don't mean the color of items itself lol).

Next is for my PC; would be it be redundant to get the 300ohms version of the Beyer's with an amp rather than a lower ohms version without amp? Would the sound technically be the same?

Lastly, are the cans for both headphones the same size?

Thanks again!


"Bright" means treble above neutral.

 

You will need an amp (or a sound card with one) for either the 250 or (even more so for the) 600 Ohm version.

 

The 600 Ohm version is superior--a tick up in clarity and extension--but still very similar to the 250 Ohm versions.  The less expensive Pro version clamps a bit tighter than the Premiums.

 

The ear cups of all the verisions of the DT 880 that I have tried seemed to be identical to me.

post #12 of 22
I already own the HD598's and I love the comfort. I have also recently ordered the DT880 Pro's because I have read the bass is superior. I love the sound on my 598's for quality, but I find them to actually be a little too balanced for my tastes. Getting my 880's next week if you will be waiting that long. I will check back with my initial thoughts. Obviously that won't be long enough for proper burn in, but I can give first impressions.
post #13 of 22
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Originally Posted by GoDj1rrA View Post

I already own the HD598's and I love the comfort. I have also recently ordered the DT880 Pro's because I have read the bass is superior. I love the sound on my 598's for quality, but I find them to actually be a little too balanced for my tastes. Getting my 880's next week if you will be waiting that long. I will check back with my initial thoughts. Obviously that won't be long enough for proper burn in, but I can give first impressions.

 

Which 880's version did you order, and what amp are you going to use?

post #14 of 22
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Originally Posted by Yujiza View Post

Hey!

Thank you very much for the timely reply!

I have a few detailed questions to add to what you said. Beforehand; I agree whole heartedly in regards to comfort being very subjective. I was mainly aiming to get some personal opinions without taking them too literally.

The main thing that's making me scratch my head is you said the Beyer's are "a bit bright". What did you mean by that (figure you don't mean the color of items itself lol).

Next is for my PC; would be it be redundant to get the 300ohms version of the Beyer's with an amp rather than a lower ohms version without amp? Would the sound technically be the same?

Lastly, are the cans for both headphones the same size?

Thanks again!

For best audio quality, all versions (32, 250, 600) of the DT880 (Premium or Pro), you should use with a decent headphone amplifier.

What gaming sources are these headphones going to be used with?

 

Beyer DT770.DT880, DT990, Premium or Pro all use the same size ear pads, so the cans, for all practical purposes are the same size.

 

My two cents, for best all around audio quality and use.

DT880 Premium 600-Ohm headphones (buy used).

DT880 Pro 250-ohm is almost as good as the 600-Ohm version.

and get a Audio-GD NFB-15.32 external DAC/Amp, $255+shipping.

post #15 of 22
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Originally Posted by Yujiza View Post

Which 880's version did you order, and what amp are you going to use?
I bought the 250 Ohm Pro's. I'm connecting directly to a Denon AVR-391 receiver. So far, what I'm reading is I may not need an amp. Unless I want to get into the $500+ range. I might consider still getting one for portable use with my iPad and and IPhone. I have a thread on here asking about amps for the 880 if you take a look.
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