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post #586 of 4580
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Originally Posted by maricius View Post


Audio is subjective and so are volume levels?? HAHAHA just kidding. Rather off topic, I wonder if any of the big brands will come out with a planar or if a new company would show up.

The one reason I generally avoided HFM headphones were due ro what I heard to be a lack of soundstage depth. I sincerely hope that the HE400i and the HE-560 more than excels


Smh. Lol. Who knows. Oppo is one that I know of.
Depth on the 560 is great, quite a noticeable amount more than the 400i from what I heard from a user that experienced both, although both of their depths beat the AKG's (dunno about the 812 tho).

post #587 of 4580
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Is it bad that I forgot to mention their impedance? And yeah, much lower resistance and much higher sensitivity = higher efficiency. I wish Audeze would do something similar to HiFiMan in terms of weight. Where as HiFiMan is getting lighter and lighter, the HE400i at 360g, the LCD-X is at a whopping 600g


I actually remember asking an Audeze rep about whether they planned to make their headphones lighter in the future - nope, they said that their headphones had to be that heavy because of the materials used in their planar drivers to make them sound good, supposedly.

 

EDIT: For grammar mistakes and to clear up on what the rep exactly said.


Edited by chowmein83 - 7/12/14 at 10:22am
post #588 of 4580
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I actually remember asking about an Audeze rep about whether they planned to make their headphones lighter in the future - nope, they said that their headphones had to be that heavy because their planar drivers had to be that heavy if they wanted to sound good.

 

I guess HFM proved them wrong but I'm not one to judge their business decisions. 

 

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Smh. Lol. Who knows. Oppo is one that I know of.
Depth on the 560 is great, quite a noticeable amount more than the 400i from what I heard from a user that experienced both, although both of their depths beat the AKG's (dunno about the 812 tho).

 

Maybe Yamaha will get back in the game

post #589 of 4580
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Originally Posted by maricius View Post
 

 

I guess HFM proved them wrong but I'm not one to judge their business decisions.

 

They did it years ago with the HE-4! :)

 

I am really interested in the HE-400i... But it would be nice to have some updates or new pics =/

post #590 of 4580
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I actually remember asking about an Audeze rep about whether they planned to make their headphones lighter in the future - nope, they said that their headphones had to be that heavy because their planar drivers had to be that heavy if they wanted to sound good.

I had to sell my LCD-2.2 because of weight and comfort issues, if audeze made a planar with the (hopefully) amazing comfort of the new hifimans  while still retaining LCD-2.2 sounds I would be so happy

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There is also the Fostex TH500 coming out soon which is a open planar worth keeping a tab on. 

post #592 of 4580
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Originally Posted by HarleyZH View Post
 

There is also the Fostex TH500 coming out soon which is a open planar worth keeping a tab on. 

 

Any estimated retail price? 

post #593 of 4580
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Originally Posted by Moosecraft View Post

I had to sell my LCD-2.2 because of weight and comfort issues, if audeze made a planar with the (hopefully) amazing comfort of the new hifimans  while still retaining LCD-2.2 sounds I would be so happy

X10000

I just want an LCD2, with the new HFM comfort, and HE-4 weight.
post #594 of 4580
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Originally Posted by maricius View Post
 

 

Any estimated retail price? 

Around 700-750 USD/74000 Yen I think was what I saw. 

post #595 of 4580
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X10000

I just want an LCD2, with the new HFM comfort, and HE-4 weight.

 

That would be the 400i. ;)  Well, hopefully. 

post #596 of 4580
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That would be the 400i. ;)  Well, hopefully. 

 

I sense that comparison of the 400i and my HE-4 will be epic... This is basically the first time ever I am really looking forward to see a headphone released and available for a demo!

 

Too bad I will have to wait a year or two until the final rev of the headphone is released... :angry_face: 

post #597 of 4580
LCD is much more rumbly in the bass. It's taller/wider soundstage but the 400i is deeper IMO. The HFM is also more intimate. I thought the Audeze was more colored, and the 400i had a more accurate (though still warm) tonality. If the Audeze is lush, liquid Carmel, the 400i is like a homemade apple pie. The Audeze is dark to the point of syrup on some songs, while the 400i is more warm and glowing. Both pleasant in different ways. The 400i kicks Audeze butt on treble extension. PRaT goes to HFM, pure weight of impact goes to Audeze due to the thicker sound, but attacks felt cleaner on the HFM. (I like a thinner, cleaner sound than Audeze's)
Imaging was interesting: Audeze was more in front, HFM more around my head.

Both great cans but the HFM is a stellar value compared to the LCD 2. The LCD 3 gives the HFM cans a run, but due to the rolled treble I'd still pick the 400i as an all-rounder. It's just more accurate taking tonality, balance, etc into account even if the micro detail isn't quite into LCD-3 territory.
post #598 of 4580
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LCD is much more rumbly in the bass. It's taller/wider soundstage but the 400i is deeper IMO. The HFM is also more intimate. I thought the Audeze was more colored, and the 400i had a more accurate (though still warm) tonality. If the Audeze is lush, liquid Carmel, the 400i is like a homemade apple pie. The Audeze is dark to the point of syrup on some songs, while the 400i is more warm and glowing. Both pleasant in different ways. The 400i kicks Audeze butt on treble extension. PRaT goes to HFM, pure weight of impact goes to Audeze due to the thicker sound, but attacks felt cleaner on the HFM. (I like a thinner, cleaner sound than Audeze's)
Imaging was interesting: Audeze was more in front, HFM more around my head.

Both great cans but the HFM is a stellar value compared to the LCD 2. The LCD 3 gives the HFM cans a run, but due to the rolled treble I'd still pick the 400i as an all-rounder. It's just more accurate taking tonality, balance, etc into account even if the micro detail isn't quite into LCD-3 territory.

Guess that's why the 560 is there wink.gif
That one's not far behind xP
post #599 of 4580
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Originally Posted by maricius View Post
 

 

I guess HFM proved them wrong but I'm not one to judge their business decisions. 

 

 

Maybe Yamaha will get back in the game


I feel like that rep doesn't know what he/she is talking about.
Doubtful, lol.

post #600 of 4580
It's probably more to do with the choice of double-sides magnets, and diaphragm thicknesses Audeze prefers.
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