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post #511 of 10198

I agree with Clem, that's what I understood from the beginning ==> and otherwise would not make sense!. (and the material on Headroom does not conclude anything)


Edited by Rudiger - 7/2/14 at 11:51am
post #512 of 10198

The pads (as long as they don't change from what they were at ChiUniFi) are a mixture of materials. The part that touches your head is velour and the rest of the pad is leather (pleather?). I personally think that they are very comfortable earpads. 

post #513 of 10198
The headroom picture is ancient. That page had been up for months and they haven't changed the picture.
post #514 of 10198

Anyone planning on having both headphones on hand and doing a direct 500 - 400i comparison? *cough Jerg cough*

post #515 of 10198
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Originally Posted by Thujone View Post
 

It already exists. Only, it's $50 more, and a bit harder to drive. :)


Erm, the HE-4 does not have the bass of the HE-400.

post #516 of 10198
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Erm, the HE-4 does not have the bass of the HE-400.

 

HE-4 and HE-400 are different inbass department.. HE-400 are too bass-heavy to be called neutral (linear but too present in relation to severely recessed upper mids to low treble area) while HE-4 are pretty much neutral in bass department with pleather pads (and slightly emphasised in subbass with velour pads).

 

For me, it goes like this in terms of bass:

 

HE-4 > HE-400 >> HE-500

post #517 of 10198
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Originally Posted by Ron12 View Post
 

 

HE-4 and HE-400 are different inbass department.. HE-400 are too bass-heavy to be called neutral (linear but too present in relation to severely recessed upper mids to low treble area) while HE-4 are pretty much neutral in bass department with pleather pads (and slightly emphasised in subbass with velour pads).

 

For me, it goes like this in terms of bass:

 

HE-4 > HE-400 >> HE-500

Too bass-heavy to be called neutral eh? I don't feel they are that emphasized, but the recessed upper mids and low treble area do call attention to it. Right on the money though, but just wanted to point out that the bass is different on both.

post #518 of 10198
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Too bass-heavy to be called neutral eh? I don't feel they are that emphasized, but the recessed upper mids and low treble area do call attention to it. Right on the money though, but just wanted to point out that the bass is different on both.

 

Yes... You just hear the bass almost regardless of what is playing, it simply dominates. HE-400 are definitely about bass... and sibilance.

post #519 of 10198
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Yes... You just hear the bass almost regardless of what is playing, it simply dominates. HE-400 are definitely about bass... and sibilance.


True, but, idk, compared to what I've heard it's not really that dominating for me. The siblance/tizz/harsh treble though. Bleh. Different sources calm it down a bit though.

post #520 of 10198
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True, but, idk, compared to what I've heard it's not really that dominating for me. The siblance/tizz/harsh treble though. Bleh. Different sources calm it down a bit though.

 

Well, it depends on what you are comparing with, what you prefer... I can tell you that I found the bass of HE-400 linear but too dominating and hard-hitting - though I enjoyed it nevertheless.

 

On the other hand, that rather blurry and slowish HE-500 bass was a disappointment for 700USD headphones. Too bad I haven't heard the HE-5LE. I have a feeling that I would like HE-4, HE-6 and HE5-LE the most from the whole Hifiman line.

post #521 of 10198
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Yes... You just hear the bass almost regardless of what is playing, it simply dominates. HE-400 are definitely about bass... and sibilance.


An overstatement if I've ever heard one . . .

 

Many people are typically "underwhelmed" on first listens. The speed and low-distortion bass made them seem quite thin to me - at both ends of the spectrum. As I got used to them, they "got bassier" and the treble had to be "tamed" with a mild 2-3 dB cut for my ears. I would still contend that they are mostly only as sibilant as the recording is - but there is a difference between vocal and instrumental sibilance - to me anyway.

post #522 of 10198
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An overstatement if I've ever heard one . . .

 

Many people are typically "underwhelmed" on first listens. The speed and low-distortion bass made them seem quite thin to me - at both ends of the spectrum. As I got used to them, they "got bassier" and the treble had to be "tamed" with a mild 2-3 dB cut for my ears. I would still contend that they are mostly only as sibilant as the recording is - but there is a difference between vocal and instrumental sibilance - to me anyway.

Very well said! +1!

post #523 of 10198
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An overstatement if I've ever heard one . . .

 

Unfortunately not... Sibilance (and treble in general) problems with HE-400 are very well-known. I personally found their bass too dominant but I can understand many will find it just about perfect. Still, there is no way you could call the bass of HE-400 weak or hidden. Well, you could... But I have never seen anyone calling HE-400 bass shy honestly.

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No word on the bass extension of these cans? It's the only question mark for me.


You're not the only one. I wonder as well. I can actually hear down to 12hz afaik, and sub-bass is mah fave, so..

post #525 of 10198
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Just wanted to personally thank you (out of rep for now) for the HE-400i impressions. For some reason I switched from wanting that to the 560. A look back at the 400i has me sure of which one I want now. Hopefully can manage to snap them for $100 off MSRP. How's the soundstage/imaging compared to the likes of AKG 712pro/Annie or HD800? If you already did this comparison (or someone else) my apologies. I have forgotten. I've read a ton.

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