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post #46 of 1491
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Jerg...did you hear that they were redesigning the pads? I wasn't sure based on your earlier comments exactly what you meant. 

 

The more that I look at the close up pic of the 400i, the more that I'm diggin' it. I don't mind it at all. In fact I'm liking it. Just don't give up all that original bass. Kill the tizz and refine the mids, so that I can enjoy some nice vocals and that'd make one hell of a hp. 

 

Come hifiman, don't let me down. :popcorn:

I'd love to see the 400i as a revision of the HE 4, lighter easier to drive and more comfy! 

post #47 of 1491
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I don't think that you'll get much easier to drive than the original 400. I loved the darkness of the original. Keep the bass, kill the tizz and I'm in. 

post #48 of 1491
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I don't think that you'll get much easier to drive than the original 400. I loved the darkness of the original. Keep the bass, kill the tizz and I'm in. 

I'm talking HE 4 not orignal 400, I am though a bright and light headphone fan, the W1000x which I modded some bass out of, and the DT 880 which I prefer out of my NFb 10ES2 xD so I LIKES THE LIGHT

post #49 of 1491
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^^ Oops, sorry. Yes, the weight reduction is huge for me. I'm ready to start seeing some reviews rolling in. 

post #50 of 1491
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^^ Oops, sorry. Yes, the weight reduction is huge for me. I'm ready to start seeing some reviews rolling in. 

... gonna b so broke this year again >.> 

post #51 of 1491
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For the lazy:

 

Caveat: All listening was done via the Hifiman EF5 and the 901 DAP.  There was an Emotiva CD player there but they refused to hook it up because they said it sounded so bad, it was only there for show I was told.  The EF5 is a colored amp w/ some headphones and might have interesting synergy issues.  IME, it tends to be tuned w/ Fang's headphones in mind, so keep that in consideration w/ impressions from it.  

The 400i seems to have fixed the weird midrange distortion that some are able to pickup.  They do sound better, more coherent overall signature and better clarity.  Still less smooth and refined than the other Hifiman phones further up the range.

560 sounds quite a bit like the name implies a 500 adding a bit of 6 treble in the signature to brighten and open it up.  Less warm than the HE500 with better clarity.  Whether there are serious sibilance or treble issues is hard to tell as I have found in the past the EF5 to take the edge of such artifacts at times. 

Overall, the HE6 had less of that full fleshed out bass compared to the 560, but every other technical metric apart from FR like speed, smoothness, refinement, imaging, were all superior on the HE6 still.

I'm afraid that's the best I could do under the time constraints and gear under show conditions.  I spent more time w/ the 901 and 802 as I felt DAPs, DACs, DAC/Amps were the rage this year.  I'll have more on that in the CES thread.

 

Hey Matt, any thoughts from your brief audition about how the HE-400i stacks up against the HE-4? I just sold off my HE-400 (which I loved a lot) in search of an upgrade, and I'm wondering if I should pull the trigger on then HE-4 or hold out another 2 months for this...

post #52 of 1491
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Hey Matt, any thoughts from your brief audition about how the HE-400i stacks up against the HE-4? I just sold off my HE-400 (which I loved a lot) in search of an upgrade, and I'm wondering if I should pull the trigger on then HE-4 or hold out another 2 months for this...

I'd hold out 

post #53 of 1491
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Originally Posted by stjj89 View Post
 

 

Hey Matt, any thoughts from your brief audition about how the HE-400i stacks up against the HE-4? I just sold off my HE-400 (which I loved a lot) in search of an upgrade, and I'm wondering if I should pull the trigger on then HE-4 or hold out another 2 months for this...

 

Those were not my impressions, sorry. Just quoting from the article mentioned. 

post #54 of 1491
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

 

Those were not my impressions, sorry. Just quoting from the article mentioned. 

 

Whoops, misread that!

 

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I'd hold out 

 

Grrr, that's what my gut instinct tells me too. How can I live for two months without an ortho can though??

post #55 of 1491
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Whoops, misread that!

 

 

Grrr, that's what my gut instinct tells me too. How can I live for two months without an ortho can though??

YOU MUST DO IT BY SHEER FORCE OF WILL

post #56 of 1491
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Whoops, misread that!

 

 

Grrr, that's what my gut instinct tells me too. How can I live for two months without an ortho can though??

 

It's certainly an exercise in patience. I had to take six weeks off to get my tinnitus in check. While it was painful not listening to music, my hp's have never sounded better than the first day that I listened again. :D

post #57 of 1491

So, it seems inevitable that the HE-400i question of value is going to hit the fore again.

 

At $500 for a set, will they still be a top value in headphones (besting headphones of both lower and higher prices)?

 

For $400, the HE-400s were a good deal. At $300, they were an awesome deal. The HE-400i at $500 will have new competition and be a _________ deal.

post #58 of 1491
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At $500 the 400i will compete against:
 

*hd650

 

*AD

 

*other HFM offerings

 

This is based on price. But if the performance is stellar, then they will compete against some of the heavy hitters like lcd2. If they perform way above their price point and can reach lcd2 level...he500 level...then watch out. 

post #59 of 1491
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At $500 the 400i will compete against:
 

*hd650

 

*AD

 

*other HFM offerings

 

This is based on price. But if the performance is stellar, then they will compete against some of the heavy hitters like lcd2. If they perform way above their price point and can reach lcd2 level...he500 level...then watch out. 

 

Generally Hifiman cans do perform above their price point. Or maybe Hifiman prices their products fairly and it's the competition that overprices their headphones...

post #60 of 1491
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Generally Hifiman cans do perform above their price point. Or maybe Hifiman prices their products fairly and it's the competition that overprices their headphones...

I believe this is the case. I was talking to a buddy about this earlier. Companies like Schiit and HiFiMan are probably only making a small profit off of each product while companies like Sennheiser can easily overprice their products and people will still buy them because their name is so well known for making good products. That or the HD600/650 are made of very expensive plastic...

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