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post #16 of 20

For $300 or less, I'd recommend the o2+odac. I had the modi-vali and thought it was a good pairing. I guess it is a good pairing if you like lush but sluggish. The odac is a much "cleaner" and leaner dac than the modi (to me). And the o2 enhances the he400 strength, which is speed and separation. I can hear the air and decay of the bass drum so clearly. 

post #17 of 20
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For $300 or less, I'd recommend the o2+odac. I had the modi-vali and thought it was a good pairing. I guess it is a good pairing if you like lush but sluggish. The odac is a much "cleaner" and leaner dac than the modi (to me). And the o2 enhances the he400 strength, which is speed and separation. I can hear the air and decay of the bass drum so clearly. 

 

from reading about people who compared the Magni and Modi vs o2 and odac i thought that the o2 and odac where only slightly better than the Magni and Modi.

 

is it really worth the extra 300 or would the money be better spent on something else like a 300 dac(e.g: Bifrost)/amp(e.g: M-stage)?

post #18 of 20
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does the Magni provide enough power to drive the HE-400 to the best that it can be?

or would a more powerful amp make it sound better? 

The Magni has way more than enough power for the HE-400. I use the HE-400 with a speaker amp, and I add resistors to adjust the power output. I've put 8 watts, 2 watts, 1 watt, 500 mw, and around 150 mw into the HE-400, and the larger amounts of power don't sound any better than even a measly 150 mw. So more power alone won't do anything for you. Now, independent of power, amps don't all sound the same. You might find that warmer amp will tame the sharp highs to some extent, but IMO the effect of an amp will be more subtle than what you can do with EQ. Have you used a good parametric EQ like EasyQ or ElectrQ? I'd suggest taking the time to really tweak around with EQ to manage the treble.

As for DAC, I recently upgraded my DAC from HRT Music Streamer 2 to Resonessence Concero. The Concero is way nicer. It cleaned up the bass, gave me clearer low level details and relaxed the highs a bit. But again, it didn't reduce treble fatigue as much as properly executed EQ does.

I can't speak to the specific Schiit models, but IMO the HE-400 is capable of resolving improvements in amp and DAC upgrades. Both of these are capable of making the headphones more refined sounding. However, if reducing the treble is your primary goal, your best bet is to spend more time on EQ.
post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by Ginron View Post
 

 

from reading about people who compared the Magni and Modi vs o2 and odac i thought that the o2 and odac where only slightly better than the Magni and Modi.

 

is it really worth the extra 300 or would the money be better spent on something else like a 300 dac(e.g: Bifrost)/amp(e.g: M-stage)?

 

To me, the schiit and o2 have a completely different sound and it pairs better with the he400. I haven't heard the magni but to me, odac > modi. Modi sounds congested. 

 

Bifrost is already $300 and you'd have to top up for an amp. But you know, it's subjective. You gonna listen to everything to decide for yourself.

 

BTW, I'm only talking about usb (computer audio). Of course the Bifrost has great flexibility. 

post #20 of 20
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Ok thank you for the input everyone.
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