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post #16 of 22
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Thanks for the recommendation of AT ath-a700x. How do you think these will compare with the KRK KNS 8400?
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  I've read a lot about the Martin Logan Mikros 90s, and considered getting them for a while, but I honestly hate the design... Also, it seems that these headphones have way too much clamping force... but I guess they're still an option, just not a preferred one. 

The krk kns 8400 are really for monitor use, so it actually will move away from your needs when you use them more. I read the ath-a700x suggestion as someone quoting a Japanese site and their views on the a700x vs. the a900x.
post #17 of 22
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Hmmm... I see. I'm still slightly confused about "monitor use". Is there any difference between "monitor use" headphones and other headphones? Again, thank you for your suggestion, and thanks to anyone who has posted or will post in this thread.

post #18 of 22
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Thanks for the recommendation of AT ath-a700x. How do you think these will compare with the KRK KNS 8400?

@pataburd  I've read a lot about the Martin Logan Mikros 90s, and considered getting them for a while, but I honestly hate the design... Also, it seems that these headphones have way too much clamping force... but I guess they're still an option, just not a preferred one. 

You are welcome, John.

 

Funny how polarizing the opinions can be about the Mikros 90 on H-F.  Unlike you, I really like the design: classic, understated, simple and functional.  The clamping force issue can be ameliorated with some gentle bending/reforming of the headband.  Personally, they have never caused any discomfort to me, glasses notwithstanding.  (But I do admit to an intermittent "self-flagellating" tendency.)  To me, though, their sound is so special, so gratifying, that I would gladly endure design deficit and cranial crushing--if for but one more measure of the music they make.

 

On the other hand, I disliked nearly everything about the KEF M500--though very popular here on H-F.  That included the KEF's design and functionality, but more importantly, their sound did not suit me at all.  Auditioning the M500 left me baffled about all the hoopla and fanfare surrounding them here and elsewhere.


Edited by pataburd - 1/9/14 at 5:54pm
post #19 of 22
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Hmmm... I see. I'm still slightly confused about "monitor use". Is there any difference between "monitor use" headphones and other headphones? Again, thank you for your suggestion, and thanks to anyone who has posted or will post in this thread.

Monitor use is when you analyze the sound waves and listen for impurities. The krk kns 8400s are great cans, but for what they are special at doing, they will not do very well at what your intended uses are. Of course, everyone is meaningful at giving you a suggestion, but from what I have read, the ath-a700x will work best for you and will keep a necessary upgrade even further into the future. Also, I noticed that you want portable cans and the krk and at cans suggested are not portable, but I figured that you would go back to earbuds for portable use.
post #20 of 22
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Monitor use is when you analyze the sound waves and listen for impurities. The krk kns 8400s are great cans, but for what they are special at doing, they will not do very well at what your intended uses are. Of course, everyone is meaningful at giving you a suggestion, but from what I have read, the ath-a700x will work best for you and will keep a necessary upgrade even further into the future. Also, I noticed that you want portable cans and the krk and at cans suggested are not portable, but I figured that you would go back to earbuds for portable use.

Well said. I just wanted to further reinforce the idea that the krks are more for recording/editing/producing music vs casual listening I think. When I listened to the 6400s at guitar center, I was able to hear a lot of detail and clarity, but it wasn't very "fun" to listen to. In other words, I would find the krks a good headset to use when I am trying to analyze songs vs just trying to relax. I read up on the ath a700s after pbui44 suggested them to you and I think they might be a better fit for what you are looking for in headphones as opposed to the krks, but you should read some of the reviews and judge for yourself: link. The only thing that is concerning is that the first review mentioned that the build quality seems not very good, and if you're planning to travel with them, that may be an issue.

post #21 of 22
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Well said. I just wanted to further reinforce the idea that the krks are more for recording/editing/producing music vs casual listening I think. When I listened to the 6400s at guitar center, I was able to hear a lot of detail and clarity, but it wasn't very "fun" to listen to. In other words, I would find the krks a good headset to use when I am trying to analyze songs vs just trying to relax. I read up on the ath a700s after pbui44 suggested them to you and I think they might be a better fit for what you are looking for in headphones as opposed to the krks, but you should read some of the reviews and judge for yourself: link. The only thing that is concerning is that the first review mentioned that the build quality seems not very good, and if you're planning to travel with them, that may be an issue.

Yeah, I felt the same way with my shure srh-840s. I gave them to my church and did regret buying them at first, but everyone on the choir seems less fatigued, so whatever. Yes, the cord on the a700x is fragile over time, but can be repaired. I read from someone that his a900x made great earmuffs and did not care about what others thought. So I guess you can get the a700x and get some koss ksc-75 earclips for portability. All for $150.
post #22 of 22

Some of us are more critical listeners than others, and many expect their gear to deliver at least some of the critical aspects typically reserved for strictly "monitorial" use, e.g. detail, resolution, focus, clarity, etc.  Criticality and musicaliy in optimal proportion, operating in harmonious synergy, are what most--if not all--Head-Fiers (myself included) are after.  

 

Music, at its best, conveys beauty through order; the more beautiful the music, the more exacting the order (I am thinking of Bach fugues at the moment).  Tending to the order, these critical more technical aspects become indispensible.  The trick is to not get waylaid in the purely technical details on the one hand, nor to be wholly content with mere sensation (while ignoring the musical structure) on the other.   

 

For my ears, the folks at Martin Logan, with their Mikros 90, have gotten nearer to achieving that delicate balance between the technical and the musical counter-components of appreciative listening than any other head-/earphones I have tried to date.


Edited by pataburd - 1/10/14 at 12:42pm
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