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post #946 of 3090

^^ True. The he4 is a perfect example of single sided done right. At the end of the day, as sit down in my recliner and dream of the sound of the he500 in this new lighter more comfortable frame. :D 

post #947 of 3090

Orthodynamic headphones existed decades ago. But then, why the sudden resurrection of this old technology by Audeze and Hifiman? I mean, the stuff is obviously great, then why did more established manufactures not venture into this area before? Something must have changed. Material science? Nano technology? Does anybody know?

post #948 of 3090
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Orthodynamic headphones existed decades ago. But then, why the sudden resurrection of this old technology by Audeze and Hifiman? I mean, the stuff is obviously great, then why did more established manufactures not venture into this area before? Something must have changed. Material science? Nano technology? Does anybody know?

It is a very curious subject to wonder about. Also why did these two small companies start up on planar magnetic almost simultaneously? Both Audeze LCD-1 and Hifiman HE-5 were revealed in 2009. Was there some internal communication between the two back in the day and they somehow developed in a divergent manner, or was this just coincidence?

 

Material science is for sure one thing that improved dramatically over the last 2~3 decades. Magnets, films, as well as machinery for tooling and precision work have all gotten much better compared to the 80s.

post #949 of 3090
Aren't planar magnetic HPs more expensive to build vs dynamic driver? Reason why companies ditched the tech back in the day?
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Orthodynamic headphones existed decades ago. But then, why the sudden resurrection of this old technology by Audeze and Hifiman? I mean, the stuff is obviously great, then why did more established manufactures not venture into this area before? Something must have changed. Material science? Nano technology? Does anybody know?
post #950 of 3090

Clientele is needed as well for such a niche product. I mean, studios seem to be very content with the (not so expensive) dynamic driver closed headphones, and it seems companies would be hard pressed to actually make a good planar in the dt770, KNS8400, DT660, Senny hd25 etc. price range.

post #951 of 3090
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Aren't planar magnetic HPs more expensive to build vs dynamic driver? Reason why companies ditched the tech back in the day?

I remember hearing that they used to have too much high frequency noise. But obviously Hifiman and Audeze are free from such issues. Though I still think they have some difficulty getting the highs right... They're either a little recessed, or close to sibilant.

 

I don't think cost was ever an issue. Well, perhaps for stats. Many expensive dynamic headphones exist, compared to, say an HE-400 or HE-500.

post #952 of 3090
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Orthodynamic headphones existed decades ago. But then, why the sudden resurrection of this old technology by Audeze and Hifiman? I mean, the stuff is obviously great, then why did more established manufactures not venture into this area before? Something must have changed. Material science? Nano technology? Does anybody know?

 

The Orthodynamic Roundup happened ( http://www.head-fi.org/t/111193/orthodynamic-roundup ). That's what.

 :popcorn: 

post #953 of 3090
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It is a very curious subject to wonder about. Also why did these two small companies start up on planar magnetic almost simultaneously? Both Audeze LCD-1 and Hifiman HE-5 were revealed in 2009. Was there some internal communication between the two back in the day and they somehow developed in a divergent manner, or was this just coincidence?

 

Material science is for sure one thing that improved dramatically over the last 2~3 decades. Magnets, films, as well as machinery for tooling and precision work have all gotten much better compared to the 80s.

Originally, Hifidez'e! Or AuDeMAN! Or MANdez'e! Or DezeMAN!

I am sure they all went their separate ways when they couldn't settle on the brand's name :veryevil:

 

A,K.A The Great Planar Conspiracy!

post #954 of 3090
I think the only way a headphone will advance or be tremendously innovative will be if a headphone is made using plasma transducers, and you can tweak the sound to your liking...
post #955 of 3090
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I think the only way a headphone will advance or be tremendously innovative will be if a headphone is made using plasma transducers, and you can tweak the sound to your liking...

Yes, the positive outlooks of dying on radiation poisoning seem promising!

post #956 of 3090
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Yes, the positive outlooks of dying on radiation poisoning seem promising!

Oxidative, not radiation poisoning (though I think using oxygen as part of the gas medium has been abolished because of that); also the heat dissipation from the transducers would be tremendous. You'd basically be strapping mini plasma cutters right beside your ears.


Edited by jerg - 1/22/14 at 12:48pm
post #957 of 3090

Looking forward to the new pads. Hopefully they sound good on the 500 as well.

post #958 of 3090
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The HE-4 vs HE-400 is a good example of single sided planar done right and double sided planar done wrongcheap, respectively.

FTFY

Agreed on that one.

post #959 of 3090
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Looking forward to the new pads. Hopefully they sound good on the 500 as well.

Agreed. As jerg is here and may wish to comment I am interested as how the pads will change. Especially on the 400i as I have read that the jergpads are effective on the 400 but really work best with the 500.
post #960 of 3090
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

It is a very curious subject to wonder about. Also why did these two small companies start up on planar magnetic almost simultaneously? Both Audeze LCD-1 and Hifiman HE-5 were revealed in 2009. Was there some internal communication between the two back in the day and they somehow developed in a divergent manner, or was this just coincidence?

 

Material science is for sure one thing that improved dramatically over the last 2~3 decades. Magnets, films, as well as machinery for tooling and precision work have all gotten much better compared to the 80s.

 

If you guys start forming conspiracy theories about companies using old technology to take over the head-fi world, I'm leaving and not coming back until these are officially released. :rolleyes:

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