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post #871 of 3090
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Originally Posted by hifiman-us View Post

Thanks for the question. The new ES will definitely come well after the HE-400i and HE-560. Perhaps later this year but it is more important to make sure it is perfect so that will determine exactly when it is launched. 

Not sure about compatibility with Stax amps. Will see what I can find out.

Btw, I have seen a few Head-Fers calling it "Jade II". That is a name someone made up, not one we are using at HiFiMAN. This ES phone will be nothing like the original Jade. 

Peter


Thanks Peter, you just made my day!!!
post #872 of 3090
Oh, one more thing, if you know the name we can start a new thread so that guys like me stop derailing the thread smily_headphones1.gif maybe it will also let others who are not reading this thread become aware that a new estat is on the way

P.S. I'd love to know what the targeted sound is, but I imagine it's too early to really say. I guess I'm kind of still asking though wink.gif
post #873 of 3090

No name yet. What we showed at CES was preliminary and while exciting, HiFiMAN is focused on the two new HE models. Once those are out and into the market this spring, we will be able to start discussing the ES phone. 

 

Thanks again for your interest.

 

Peter

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post #874 of 3090
Thanks for sharing all of that the info Peter, I'm very much looking forward to this. Also planning to try the new planars, and I can't wait till the impressions start coming in. I'm very excited about your products right now; they will be first experience with Hifiman smily_headphones1.gif
Edited by mangler - 1/20/14 at 5:15pm
post #875 of 3090
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Originally Posted by hifiman-us View Post
 

No name yet. What we showed at CES was preliminary and while exciting, HiFiMAN is focused on the two new HE models. Once those are out and into the market this spring, we will be able to start discussing the ES phone. 

 

Thanks again for your interest.

 

Peter


Do you believe the new line to REPLACE the old one? Or to just expand on different flavors?

post #876 of 3090

We'll have an announcement about that shortly. Stay tuned.

 

Peter

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post #877 of 3090
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We'll have an announcement about that shortly. Stay tuned.

 

Peter

post #878 of 3090
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Originally Posted by DADDYDC650 View Post

Do you know if the HE-560 will feature double sided planars?

Did a google search. Seems like they are single sided. How will the HE-560 sound better than the HE-6 since it's technically inferior?
Inferior?? Seriously? Read the whole thread.
post #879 of 3090
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Inferior?? Seriously? Read the whole thread.


What? He's right. Less diaphragm control with only one sided magnets and therefore more distortion. Simple as that. The only clear advantage is weight (nothing to do with SQ) and a more open sound due to less resonances (something taken care of to a great extent on the HE500 with pad, grill, and felt mods).

post #880 of 3090

From Tyll's review of the Abyss, "~~It would be easy at this point to simply say more distortion is worse, but that's not necessarily true. If it were, tube amps would be universally worse sounding than solid-state amps, which is simply not the case for many listeners."  Also, he links to this article, https://passlabs.com/articles/audio-distortion-and-feedback 


Edited by talmlikeabalm - 1/20/14 at 7:26pm
post #881 of 3090
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Originally Posted by hifiman-us View Post
 

Sonic signatures- yes, they are still being tweaked so any comment on what they will sound like is premature. My sense is that HE-400i will sound more like current HE-500 and HE-560 will sound like HE-6 with a slightly wider soundstage. 

 

 

What a beautiful Monday! :biggrin:

post #882 of 3090
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Originally Posted by hifiman-us View Post

No name yet. What we showed at CES was preliminary and while exciting, HiFiMAN is focused on the two new HE models. Once those are out and into the market this spring, we will be able to start discussing the ES phone. 

Thanks again for your interest.

Peter


Thanks for being so open with the community, Peter. I feel your communication has been greatly appreciated. It's becoming more and more rare to see such transparency among other companies (not just in the hi-fi world).

I personally look forward to all of Hifiman's new offerings (especially if the new ES is a hit). Best of luck with the new designs thanks for all the updates!

(P.S. we love pictures if you didn't notice wink.gif )
post #883 of 3090
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From Tyll's review of the Abyss, "~~It would be easy at this point to simply say more distortion is worse, but that's not necessarily true. If it were, tube amps would be universally worse sounding than solid-state amps, which is simply not the case for many listeners."  Also, he links to this article, https://passlabs.com/articles/audio-distortion-and-feedback 

Just another point to show that measurements are indeed useful tools in making certain objective determinations but ultimately the listeners own experience is what matters most.  If it measures 'bad' but sounds 'good' to me, it still sounds good in the end and that is what matters most, especially on my home rig.  I have no doubt they'll be able to pull this new driver design off successfully, especially after initial impressions having indicated that the prototypes sound good.  I think a healthy combination of objective measurement data and subjective listening impressions (especially from trusted sources and those of whom you know their preferences already...or better yet people with the same cans as you) will give us the answers we're looking for...all in due time of course :cool: I'm trying to be patient, can you tell? :p 

post #884 of 3090

I find the HE-500 extremely enjoyable to listen to, even more so than the Audeze line and the HD800. Nevertheless, its frequency response has a noticeable dip in the mid-high range. Many people still LOVE the sound of the HD600 despite it's technical drawbacks (lack of detail, etc.) because of its neutral sound and almost flat frequency response (except for the bass region). The HE-500 captures the bass, the mids, and the sparkle towards the end of the highs perfectly fine; but misses somewhat in the mid-high range. Fixing that issue with the HE-560, for me, would make it the best headphone today at any price point.


Edited by zxc - 1/20/14 at 9:09pm
post #885 of 3090
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I find the HE-500 extremely enjoyable to listen to, even more so than the Audeze line and the HD800. Nevertheless, its frequency response has a noticeable dip in the mid-high range. Many people still LOVE the sound of the HD600 despite it's technical drawbacks (lack of detail, etc.) because of its neutral sound and almost flat frequency response (except for the bass region). The HE-500 captures the bass, the mids, and the sparkle towards the end of the highs perfectly fine; but misses somewhat in the mid-high range. Fixing that issue with the HE-560, for me, would make it the best headphone today at any price point.

It is possible to achieve with a little modding if you've already got a pair of HE-500: 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/646812/hifiman-he500-he400-jergpad-mod-v2-5-modulor-orders-updated-december#post_9068021

 

Still, high anticipation for the HE-400i and HE-560!

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