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post #691 of 3001
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Originally Posted by roguegeek View Post
 

It's because anyone who's owned previous versions of these cans KNOWS there's tons of things that need to be improved and it looks like these could answer some of those large issues. I'm excited too. Just sold my HE-400 because I just couldn't deal with all the flaws anymore.

yea I didn't keep my HE 4 long... I mean.. I liked it but It sat around my room most of the time honestly 

post #692 of 3001
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

yea I didn't keep my HE 4 long... I mean.. I liked it but It sat around my room most of the time honestly 

I'd like to try the HE 4, 400i and he 560 soon :D heres to hoping for that demo tour 

post #693 of 3001
I really have no complaints about my he-500 now. My only ones in the beginning were the pads sucked and the headband could stand to be smaller, if my head were a cm smaller they would be too loose.

My optimism is adequately metered, the 560 seems to be at least an improvement in comfort and possibly an improvement in SQ, I trust Fang wouldn't charge more or even release one that was $200 more but not an improvement over the 500.
post #694 of 3001
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Originally Posted by Ultramus View Post

I really have no complaints about my he-500 now. My only ones in the beginning were the pads sucked and the headband could stand to be smaller, if my head were a cm smaller they would be too loose.

My optimism is adequately metered, the 560 seems to be at least an improvement in comfort and possibly an improvement in SQ, I trust Fang wouldn't charge more or even release one that was $200 more but not an improvement over the 500.

 

A more comfortable he500 even at $900 is what the doctor ordered as far as I'm concerned. 

post #695 of 3001

The wood looks very good. A nice change and very hi end looking. I do not expect the sound to disappoint. The changed magnet arrangement is interesting. I do like the wood of the 560. 

post #696 of 3001

I just don't see how a single-sided magnet driver could have more control of the driver than double-sided drivers without spending a lot more money AND time to better control the driver with that arrangement. It would cost much more I'd imagine to gain good control with that setup.

post #697 of 3001
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post
 

I just don't see how a single-sided magnet driver could have more control of the driver than double-sided drivers without spending a lot more money AND time to better control the driver with that arrangement. It would cost much more I'd imagine to gain good control with that setup.

The proof will be in the hearing. I hope to hear some soon. 

post #698 of 3001
Since not all of us are headphone designers, is there a point to thinking less of the single sided magnet? How many people REALLY know how it workes enough to speculate? Lots of imagining going on here on tech that is relatively new in the big picture. Yes, I know the tech is old, but has made a comeback.
post #699 of 3001
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post
 

I just don't see how a single-sided magnet driver could have more control of the driver than double-sided drivers without spending a lot more money AND time to better control the driver with that arrangement. It would cost much more I'd imagine to gain good control with that setup.

well the double sided HE 6 is from early impressions still the better amp, how ever as others have mentioned and as you may know technologoical capacity doubles like every 18 months. So considering it's been 2+ years since we got the HE 500... I can imagine the new Single Magnet tech could be better 

post #700 of 3001
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Originally Posted by Keithpgdrb View Post

Since not all of us are headphone designers, is there a point to thinking less of the single sided magnet? How many people REALLY know how it workes enough to speculate? Lots of imagining going on here on tech that is relatively new in the big picture. Yes, I know the tech is old, but has made a comeback.
Lots of info about the abyss design and the struggle to control the driver has been put out. There has been many resources showing the distortion figures die to the lack of ease in controlling the driver.
post #701 of 3001
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

well the double sided HE 6 is from early impressions still the better amp, how ever as others have mentioned and as you may know technologoical capacity doubles like every 18 months. So considering it's been 2+ years since we got the HE 500... I can imagine the new Single Magnet tech could be better 
Lol that statistic is on technology more geared toward computers and things like that.
post #702 of 3001

Are Audeze's drivers single or double sided?

post #703 of 3001

They are double sided.  The other notable single-sided drivers are hifiman's HE-4 and The JPS Abyss.  You can look at how the single-sided driver affects the measurements of that one at innerfidelity, but subjectively a lot of people rate it as best overall headphone on the market.

post #704 of 3001
What seems strange is if one sided magnets contribute to lighter weight, then wouldn't one side of the headphones be heavier than the other? This question clearly demonstrates my lack of knowledge. Also it doesn't seem plausible one sided magnets= less driver control= decreased SQ. That's to say, it seems doubtful HiFiMan would improve their existing headphones by downgrading existing sound quality.
Edited by Zuckfun - 1/15/14 at 1:57pm
post #705 of 3001

One-sided magnet planars can clearly be world class. We know this because of the Abyss. Not sure what kind of engineering must be done for this to happen. But if the guys at JPS can figure something out, I'm sure our man Fang can too. He does have a Ph.D in material science (nano technology).

 

I hope the 560 sounds better than the Abyss at $899. That would be good... very good. Haha.

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