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So glad the HE-560 pre-order is up! I've cleaned up the original post and added the pre-order link. Thank you everyone at Hifiman :)

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I passed this along to Fang who replied: 

 

“Thank you for the suggestion of Graphene as a diaphragm material. We have looked at this and Graphene does have some properties that would lend itself to our application. There are many things to consider when designing a high performance transducer and we will keep this in mind."


This is exciting. If anyone can use this new material it will be Dr. Fang with his Ph.D. in material sciences. Great stuff. Keep up the good work Dr.

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I passed this along to Fang who replied: 

 

“Thank you for the suggestion of Graphene as a diaphragm material. We have looked at this and Graphene does have some properties that would lend itself to our application. There are many things to consider when designing a high performance transducer and we will keep this in mind."

Not to mention the cost factor. Definitely won't be cheap at all.:eek: 

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Not to mention the cost factor. Definitely won't be cheap at all.:eek: 

 

Future flagship?  HE-7Graphene

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Future flagship?  HE-7Graphene

Lol.  Why not?  The material will go down in cost eventually when new manufacturing methods improve yield ratio.

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Lol.  Why not?  The material will go down in cost eventually when new manufacturing methods improve yield ratio.

Probably won't be worth the risk for a relatively small company like Hifiman to delve right in though, without much precedent. This kind of material science R&D needs at least some big corporate adoption first.

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Lol.  Why not?  The material will go down in cost eventually when new manufacturing methods improve yield ratio.

Yup, one day it will cost the same as making a pencil. Haha. One pencil probably has enough graphene for a driver.

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Probably won't be worth the risk for a relatively small company like Hifiman to delve right in though, without much precedent. This kind of material science R&D needs at least some big corporate adoption first.


Yeah Fang will spend millions and five years creating the HE-7G and the first thing Jerg will do will be to break it apart and find ways to improve it. :evil: (Fang, look I put some cotton here and now it's 1000% better).

 

Fang:

 

-.-...

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Here's something to ponder upon

 

http://www.geek.com/science/graphene-speakers-can-already-outperform-regular-ones-1591415/

If you read the article or the actual study, these guys don't understand audio fidelity at all. 

 

"The overall quality of a speaker can be described by its frequency response"

 

 

Really? Really?

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Forget graphene, you need this.

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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

If you read the article or the actual study, these guys don't understand audio fidelity at all. 

 

"The overall quality of a speaker can be described by its frequency response"

 

 

Really? Really?

Lol.  I thought you are a strong believer in graphs and measurements? Are you not? :D

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Lol.  I thought you are a strong believer in graphs and measurements? Are you not? :D

What does that have to do with the ignorance of that statement?

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What does that have to do with the ignorance of that statement?

I personally don't find that statement ignorant at all, just funny in a way.  Call me strange but to me ignorance is bliss.  

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I personally don't find that statement ignorant at all, just funny in a way.  Call me strange but to me ignorance is bliss.  

It is more serious than it looks because they ARE trying to conduct actual scientific research, so if even the basic parametres are wrong or grossly over-simplified, they would be drawing conclusions that are way off.

 

It just seems to me like graphene material science researchers attempting to draw more attention (and with that more funding interests) to their fields, more than anything else really.

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