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Sorry but your comments make no sense to me. I'll chalk it up to everyone hears things differently.


IDK, I think my ears might be very sensitive to treble and/or have songs with lots of treble in the way it is mastered.

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IDK, I think my ears might be very sensitive to treble and/or have songs with lots of treble in the way it is mastered.

Haven't done any Jerg or any other modding with the HE-500 when I had them, but the Emotiva Mini is definitely not helping. It's a bright amp for sure.

post #2613 of 3058
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Haven't done any Jerg or any other modding with the HE-500 when I had them, but the Emotiva Mini is definitely not helping. It's a bright amp for sure.


Yeah, compared to my parents' denon receiver it is definitely somewhat bright. And I'm also pretty sure the Modi is supposed to be somewhat bright.

post #2614 of 3058
Well, I find the damping mod to give off a slight etch in the high mids 4~5 kHz as I remember, which I only really noticed imidiately after adding more damping holes to my already damped pads back then.
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Well, I find the damping mod to give off a slight etch in the high mids 4~5 kHz as I remember, which I only really noticed imidiately after adding more damping holes to my already damped pads back then.


Yup, sounds about right.

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Based on what I've heard about HE-500 and HE-6 is that HE-6 has more LF extension. In my year experience with HE-500, I thought they had a good slam but they rolled off quicker and had looser bass in comparison to the LCD-2 when I had them. When I got the 3's, this held true as well.

 

Has there been any insights into the LF extension with the new models?

post #2617 of 3058
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post
 

Based on what I've heard about HE-500 and HE-6 is that HE-6 has more LF extension. In my year experience with HE-500, I thought they had a good slam but they rolled off quicker and had looser bass in comparison to the LCD-2 when I had them. When I got the 3's, this held true as well.

 

Has there been any insights into the LF extension with the new models?

 

Good question. And improved HE-500 should mean improved low end as well. If they can match the LCD 2's but still keep that great house sound we may have a world beater on our hands! 

 

I was tooling around thinking I was just gonna pick up the HE-400i and keep it safe but nah, why not take a look at the HE-560's! I'll sale a few things and be ready to go come the end of this month! 

 

Thanks,

 

 

:evil:

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Has there been any word from retailers when the new models will be available in stock or ready to demo (especially here in Canada), or is there going to be a pre-order system?

 

I kept hearing March all these months, but it's half over and haven't found anything conclusive.

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:eek:

 

So the HE-500 prices are probably going to go up after they stop selling, like with Denon's. They're going for so cheap right now. I feel like pulling the trigger on HE-500s based on the deals I'm seeing, but the two things stopping me from doing so are the amplifier requirements and the comfort/weight.

 

Still can't believe he's actually discontinuing them for good. The HE-500 were probably the best selling out of the bunch. It's the equivalent of shutting down the LCD-2s (my favourite of all time).

 

I bet that the HE-500 will become something of a cult classic, like the AKG K501, etc. I think they sound good enough that there will be folks who will prefer their sound over that of the new models.

 

Sure, the 400i may improve performance on a lot of fronts, ie. clarity, detail retrieval, soundstage, speed, and whatever else it might bring to the table. But it will not sound exactly like the 500. And for those who love the sound of the 500, that change in flavor may be less preferable. In otherwords, the 400i will be an improvement in a lot of ways, but I'm sure there will be some aspects of the 500's sound that some people will prefer.

 

As in my AKG K501 example, the newer Q701 improves on the sound in a lot of ways, but it does not quite match the hypnotic way that the K501 presents the midrange. This may be BECAUSE of the shortcoming K501, ie., in it's sub-optimal bass presentation (on the thin and attenuated side). Improve on the bass, and the midrange presentation changes as well. Yet the K501 is still highly appreciated for that midrange presentation.

 

So we'll see. For a headphone as nice sounding as the 500, I can't see how the 400i can improve on everything without throwing off that particular balance of virtues that makes the 500's sound signature so appealing. And I, for one, think that 500 sound is quite fine. I bet the 400i will sound fine, too, but different for sure, so take your pick.

 

Incidentally, I also find the Sennheiser HD580 has a place in my collection, despite it having been discontinued and replace by the HD600 and HD650.

 

With the correct amping and source, I find the HD580 to sound much more organic and intimate that the 600 (I don't own the 650). It would be like comparing a good single ended SET tube amp (HD580) to a good push-pull tube amp (HD600). The 580 sound is just moving and communicative whereas the 600 is cleaner, but stiffer and more analytical/cerebral sounding. But both are great phones with a copasetic supporting system.

 

So even though the older HiFi Men are being discontinued, I feel they still will be great choices for many folks.

 

P.S. - I believe that is what is meant when said the new phones will have an equivalent quality, but not signature. The will sound just as good, but different. Some might like one over the other.

 

So if you've heard the 500s and like them, might be a good time to get them while they're being cleared out. I'm not sure how low the prices will go. Same goes for the 400s, if you like their sound.


Edited by K.T. - 3/17/14 at 12:43pm
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Originally Posted by Maxx134 View Post

It is now after mid march....
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OK its now 1day after mid March...
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Time to get on the line...


Just need a little..

Edited by Maxx134 - 3/18/14 at 7:39am
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:D

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I just got word that HFM found something last minute that they still needed to tweak, so test samples are being delayed till next week. Personally I like this approach a lot more than a hurried release that precedes post-release revisions (ala HE400).

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I just got word that HFM found something last minute that they still needed to tweak, so test samples are being delayed till next week. Personally I like this approach a lot more than a hurried release that precedes post-release revisions (ala HE400).


And your announcement is better than Oppo's style lmfao

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I am holding off selling my Lyr, just in case new 560 is as good as HE-6 driven from it. Eagerly waiting for reviews and release, but will wait for HE-6 vs 560 comparison from reliable guys.

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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

I just got word that HFM found something last minute that they still needed to tweak, so test samples are being delayed till next week. Personally I like this approach a lot more than a hurried release that precedes post-release revisions (ala HE400).

Same. I'd rather have a good product later than have a defective one earlier and deal with all the extra hassle (shipping etc.)

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