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post #2446 of 3090
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post
 

Wow, the 5LE already have tight and controlled bass. If anything, more presence/impact could be appreciated (like the HE-6).

One man's bass is another man's 'bleh'

 

The 5LE's had so much bass energy below 60 Hz that it muddied up the midbass, and sacrificed detail.  I much prefer the accuracy of the Alpha Dogs, which reveal fine details much better, like the difference between roundwounds and flat bass strings, as well as the different sound signature of a Fender P bass vs. a Rickenbacker vs. a Warwick.

 

I am unreasonablly picky on this one facet of a headphone...

post #2447 of 3090
One thing I find lacking in the HE-400 (and I hear that the HE-500 has the same problem) is the soudstage. Compared to my other open cans it sounds too closed in. I'm hoping they improve this on the new models.
post #2448 of 3090

Regarding a retrofit of new headband on previous HE models, I spoke with Fang about this and he confirmed it wont work. One reason is weight of the ear cups/drivers and the other is how they connect. Sorry to disappoint but the new headband will not be available separately. 

 

We really appreciate all the interest in the new HE models. It wont be long now. 

 

Peter

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post #2449 of 3090

pictures?

post #2450 of 3090
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Originally Posted by hifiman-us View Post
 

Regarding a retrofit of new headband on previous HE models, I spoke with Fang about this and he confirmed it wont work. One reason is weight of the ear cups/drivers and the other is how they connect. Sorry to disappoint but the new headband will not be available separately. 

 

We really appreciate all the interest in the new HE models. It wont be long now. 

 

Peter

Thanks for the verification. I guess 'Franken'-Hifimans with older drivers and new headband won't become a thing.

post #2451 of 3090
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Originally Posted by Za Warudo View Post

One thing I find lacking in the HE-400 (and I hear that the HE-500 has the same problem) is the soudstage. Compared to my other open cans it sounds too closed in. I'm hoping they improve this on the new models.

If they do the earpads right (proper angling and damping), on top of single-ended drivers being more open-sounding by nature, it should be an improvement in theory. In practice though, we won't know till some of us have heard it and formed some uniform conclusions.

 

Edit: 9 posts till 5k!


Edited by jerg - 3/12/14 at 10:32am
post #2452 of 3090
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post
 

Wow, the 5LE already have tight and controlled bass. If anything, more presence/impact could be appreciated (like the HE-6).

One man's bass is another man's 'bleh'

 

The 5LE's had so much bass energy below 60 Hz that it muddied up the midbass, and sacrificed detail.  I much prefer the accuracy of the Alpha Dogs, which reveal fine details much better, like the difference between roundwounds and flat bass strings, as well as the different sound signature of a Fender P bass vs. a Rickenbacker vs. a Warwick.

 

I am unreasonablly picky on this one facet of a headphone...


FWIW any of those differences are due to higher frequencies, not the bass tones themselves. You're hearing qualities from string material.
post #2453 of 3090
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Originally Posted by hifiman-us View Post
 

Regarding a retrofit of new headband on previous HE models, I spoke with Fang about this and he confirmed it wont work. One reason is weight of the ear cups/drivers and the other is how they connect. Sorry to disappoint but the new headband will not be available separately. 

 

We really appreciate all the interest in the new HE models. It wont be long now. 

 

Peter

 

The boys are getting a little restless here. An updated picture or two and any information on the pre-order would be greatly appreciated if possible.

 

thanks...

post #2454 of 3090
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Originally Posted by RebelRising View Post
 

Assuming nothing has changed..."Launching in March, the HE-400i will retail at $499, and the HE-560 will be on shelves at $899."

Wow, That puts the HE-560 so close to the Audeze LCD-2 !!


Edited by richbass - 3/12/14 at 10:36am
post #2455 of 3090
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Originally Posted by richbass View Post
 

Wow, That puts the HE-560 so close to the Audeze LCD-2 !!

FTFY

post #2456 of 3090
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post


FWIW any of those differences are due to higher frequencies, not the bass tones themselves. You're hearing qualities from string material.

Not for nothing, but I get that.  Even my open E on a new pair of roundwounds has energy up to 8000K

 

I am referring specifically to the harmonics and the qualities of midbass, up to about 1.5K.  I found that the 5LE's presented the fundamental, being 40 Hz on open E down to 30 Hz on open B, so well and with such emphasis and weight that it obscured the second harmonics on up.

 

I'm really hoping the new cans are more natural and transparent.

post #2457 of 3090
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Originally Posted by swspiers View Post
 

One man's bass is another man's 'bleh'

 

The 5LE's had so much bass energy below 60 Hz that it muddied up the midbass, and sacrificed detail.  I much prefer the accuracy of the Alpha Dogs, which reveal fine details much better, like the difference between roundwounds and flat bass strings, as well as the different sound signature of a Fender P bass vs. a Rickenbacker vs. a Warwick.

 

I am unreasonablly picky on this one facet of a headphone...

 

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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post

FWIW any of those differences are due to higher frequencies, not the bass tones themselves. You're hearing qualities from string material.

 

I like this discussion of string theory.  Maybe it will lead to a Unified Theory of Everything... Planar ;)  Will the HE-560s become the de facto HP of choice for discerning theoretical physicists?

post #2458 of 3090

is G-String included in your string theory?  cuz it's in mine and looks beautiful on certain individuals. :p

post #2459 of 3090
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 

is G-String included in your string theory?  cuz it's in mine and looks beautiful on certain individuals. :p

 

To echo the common cry of this thread... PICTURES!!  We need pictures!!!  :darthsmile:

post #2460 of 3090
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To echo the common cry of this thread... PICTURES!!  We need pictures!!!  :darthsmile:


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