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post #2431 of 3090

^^ Yes, true but they are operating on very different price points.

post #2432 of 3090
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I like MrSpeaker's approach in that you can update your current model to whatever he cooks up next for a fee. It will probably stop at some point, but for now, those with earlier models can update to the full blown Alpha Dog...

Cuts down on buyer's remorse, and doesn't make your headphone obsolete or easily replaced. I wish more companies did this. Like Audeze upgrading older LCD2s to the newer ones for a small fee, instead of having to buy a whole new headphone.

 

That's because MrSpeakers is ONLY a modder. He doesn't manufacture headphones from raw parts. AND he built the business off of a model of headphone that is known for being incredibly receptive to mods. It's like comparing one of those "custom gaming computer" companies that buy parts in bulk to Apple and complaining that you can't take out the mobo on your Macbook Pro. Their businesses operate entirely differently.

post #2433 of 3090
Also, modern orthodynamic headphones are a still relatively recent affair. Advances are bound to happen more frequently. Look how long it took Sennheiser to update the HD600 to HD800. Then again, I believe more R&D went into that HD800 than all current Hifiman's combined. Don't get me wrong, I still prefer the HE-500 sound to the HD800. But HD800 is a pure engineering marvel, with its incredibly open earcup design, uber comfortable pads, damped headband, glass filled composite material, it's just lightyears ahead of most all headphones. Compare that to the thin stiff cable and ugly molded jack of HE-500.

And yet, I'm waiting in line for the HE-560. I think Hifiman addressed exactly what they needed, all the while Audeze is becoming slightly more irrelevant.
Edited by zxc - 3/12/14 at 8:25am
post #2434 of 3090
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Also, modern orthodynamic headphones are a still relatively recent affair. Advances are bound to happen more frequently. Look how long it took Sennheiser to update the HD600 to HD800. Then again, I believe more R&D went into that HD800 than all current Hifiman's combined. Don't get me wrong, I still prefer the HE-500 sound to the HD800. But HD800 is a pure engineering marvel, with its incredibly open earcup design, uber comfortable pads, damped headband, glass filled composite material, it's just lightyears ahead of most all headphones. Compare that to the thin stiff cable and ugly molded jack of HE-500.

And yet, I'm waiting in line for the HE-560. I think Hifiman addressed exactly what they needed, all the while Audeze is becoming slightly more irrelevant.

 

haha...tell that to the hordes of their fans. They do have a good product IMO, just too heavy. I spent a lot of time auditioning the lcd-x and it's an incredible hp in every regard except for weight. 

 

I'd like to see a new planar mag hp from Senn...

post #2435 of 3090
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That's because MrSpeakers is ONLY a modder. He doesn't manufacture headphones from raw parts. AND he built the business off of a model of headphone that is known for being incredibly receptive to mods. It's like comparing one of those "custom gaming computer" companies that buy parts in bulk to Apple and complaining that you can't take out the mobo on your Macbook Pro. Their businesses operate entirely differently.

Incorrect, though I see what you're getting at.  But you are seriously short-changing the development and manufacturing of the Alpha Dogs.

post #2436 of 3090
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Incorrect, though I see what you're getting at.  But you are seriously short-changing the development and manufacturing of the Alpha Dogs.

 

I was about to make the same point, but felt it was getting way to off topic. Hopefully by this time next week there will be some excitement in this thread about the 560. 

post #2437 of 3090
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I was about to make the same point, but felt it was getting way to off topic. Hopefully by this time next week there will be some excitement in this thread about the 560.

Thanks Matt.  I don't usually stray off topic like that.

Anyway, I am very interested in the 560 as a compliment to my current cans.  It would be nice to have some HIfiman in the collection again!

post #2438 of 3090
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Thanks Matt.  I don't usually stray off topic like that.

Anyway, I am very interested in the 560 as a compliment to my current cans.  It would be nice to have some HIfiman in the collection again!

 

I'm excited as well as much as anyone. Even though I don't see that the 560 is the one for me, as I'm waiting on the 400i which I think is tuned more towards my preferred signature. 

 

Still I'm interested to see how the release of the 560 is carried out and received. It's a compelling hp no doubt and hifiman has a lot riding on this one. I suppose that I could be persuaded to pull the trigger on the 560 but it would have to live up to the hype. 

post #2439 of 3090

For those of you concerned about the weight,or how it will balance on your head,this fella will be conducting some seminars on how to strengthen your neck with proper balance and posture.... :wink_face:

post #2440 of 3090
I'm kind of hoping for a blend of the 500 and the 6.
post #2441 of 3090
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I'm kind of hoping for a blend of the 500 and the 6.

I'm hoping for a lighter 5LE with tighter, more controlled bass.

post #2442 of 3090
Never heard the 5le but let's keep this going

I WISH:...
post #2443 of 3090
The new line will be able to pull out a hair more detail.
post #2444 of 3090
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I'm hoping for a lighter 5LE with tighter, more controlled bass.

Wow, the 5LE already have tight and controlled bass. If anything, more presence/impact could be appreciated (like the HE-6).

post #2445 of 3090
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post
 

Wow, the 5LE already have tight and controlled bass. If anything, more presence/impact could be appreciated (like the HE-6).

 

I agree here. 

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