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post #2371 of 3090
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post
 

 

I think weight is an overstated concern with headphones unless we're talking giant bricks. As long as it's decently distributed between clamp and headband, I don't think it's a problem even if they're fairly heavy. Unless you have a supremely weak neck.

 

It's not the neck that it causes issues with.  The UE 9000, for example, causes a pain at the top of my head right where the headband meets my head after a little while.  The pain is all concentrated at one point.  That's got something to do with weight and distribution (it wouldn't hurt if it were lighter OR distributed better; both would be a good thing too). 

post #2372 of 3090
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Originally Posted by tinyman392 View Post
 

 

It's not the neck that it causes issues with.  The UE 9000, for example, causes a pain at the top of my head right where the headband meets my head after a little while.  The pain is all concentrated at one point.  That's got something to do with weight and distribution (it wouldn't hurt if it were lighter OR distributed better; both would be a good thing too). 

 

That's what I mean. Distribution is important, as is material. You could make a pretty heavy set but if it's got a soft material for the headband and spreads the weight across it you wouldn't really notice.

post #2373 of 3090
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post
 

 

That's what I mean. Distribution is important, as is material. You could make a pretty heavy set but if it's got a soft material for the headband and spreads the weight across it you wouldn't really notice.

 

It's happened with softer headbands.  A better distribution is one solution for sure, weight is the other.  The in the case of the UE 9000, if it were lighter, the problems would be solved. 

post #2374 of 3090
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Originally Posted by tinyman392 View Post
 

 

It's happened with softer headbands.  A better distribution is one solution for sure, weight is the other.  The in the case of the UE 9000, if it were lighter, the problems would be solved. 

 

Ah, yeah. I dunno if they feel anything like the (massively overrated) UE6000s in terms of feel, but if so, yeah. Those things really could use a redesign.

post #2375 of 3090

Is there an estimate on the price of the new pads?  I've read that they are interchangeable with the HE500 so am curious as to the cost.

 

I'm hoping fairly cheap as the velours and leathers go for $10/$20 respectively.

post #2376 of 3090
You still forget to add 40 grams to the current line up hifimans due to the pads! Ignorant Americans :S
Lol :P
post #2377 of 3090
I've worn headphones of all weights everyday for the past five years or so for quite a few hours a day. When I auditioned the lcd-xc my neck got a cramp with in five minutes... And I'm pretty muscular. They have good dispersion too
post #2378 of 3090
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I've worn headphones of all weights everyday for the past five years or so for quite a few hours a day. When I auditioned the lcd-xc my neck got a cramp with in five minutes... And I'm pretty muscular. They have good dispersion too

 

Dispersion actually won't have much to do with the neck cramps, the pressure dispersion throughout the headband actually helps avoid the issue I had with the pinpoint pain at the top of my head XD  The Dido are the heaviest headphone I've had to wear, I can do it for a few hours before my head gets tired XD 

post #2379 of 3090
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Originally Posted by tinyman392 View Post
 

 

Dispersion actually won't have much to do with the neck cramps, the pressure dispersion throughout the headband actually helps avoid the issue I had with the pinpoint pain at the top of my head XD  The Dido are the heaviest headphone I've had to wear, I can do it for a few hours before my head gets tired XD 

Yep, you can have perfect dispersion of downward pressure all you want with the best headband, but ultimately all that weight bears down on your neck vertebrae. Reducing the headphone weight is the golden path for planar magnetic headphones in terms of comfort.

post #2380 of 3090

You all need a new job to get in headphone shape!

 

post #2381 of 3090
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Originally Posted by Maxx134 View Post


We need to throw in the AlpaDogs in this weight line up..

 

Mad Dog 390

 

Mad Dog Pro 423

 

Alpha Dog 460

post #2382 of 3090
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

 

Mad Dog 390

 

Mad Dog Pro 423

 

Alpha Dog 460

while we are at it 

Final audio Design Pandora hope VI

480g

thats barely a pound!

 

I really think the wining about weights are overkill. My wife has a small neck and never complained about any of them at all. I just dont get it. She likes the way my Final Audio's feel.

 

MAN UP!


Edited by grizzlybeast - 3/11/14 at 12:10pm
post #2383 of 3090

Sometimes the weight becomes of a problem with age or if you've had an injury. There are cases when there is just no "getting used to it."

post #2384 of 3090
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

Sometimes the weight becomes of a problem with age or if you've had an injury. There are cases when there is just no "getting used to it."

ohhh yeahhh....

 

i didnt think of that.. in that case I totallllly get it.:redface:

 

then to the young guys<50 with no neck problems... MAN UP! lol

post #2385 of 3090
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

while we are at it 

Final audio Design Pandora hope VI

480g

thats barely a pound!

 

I really think the wining about weights are overkill. My wife has a small neck and never complained about any of them at all. I just dont get it. She likes the way my Final Audio's feel.

 

MAN UP!

I find it unfair that "it's tolerable / not really a problem" is an argument for something not worthy of being improved. Headphone weight can always be lighter for the sake of improved comfort / disappears-on-the-head feel.

 

For instance, I can wear my HE500s for 12 hours straight if I want to, with just minor neck fatigue after; doesn't mean I won't welcome something with the same sound quality but half the weight more.

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