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post #2236 of 3090

I would look forward for reviews from someone who had toyed with HE-6, like preproman, brunk, Al. 

 

after-all Hifiman claims HE-560 equals HE-6 sq and also lot easier to drive. 

post #2237 of 3090

No way, because then we'd all be lead to believe that we need speaker amps to make it sound the best.  :D

post #2238 of 3090
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Originally Posted by musicinmymind View Post
 

I would look forward for reviews from someone who had toyed with HE-6, like preproman, brunk, Al. 

 

after-all Hifiman claims HE-560 equals HE-6 sq and also lot easier to drive. 

I don't think they said "equals".. cause that would be a bad move for them.  But they did say it was modeled after the he-6 I believe.  all of this can only be good.

post #2239 of 3090

I'm pretty sure they said they were aiming for the HE-6 in sound quality terms.

post #2240 of 3090
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Originally Posted by musicinmymind View Post
 

I would look forward for reviews from someone who had toyed with HE-6, like preproman, brunk, Al. 

 

after-all Hifiman claims HE-560 equals HE-6 sq and also lot easier to drive. 

not sure if I make your list of not, but I will be spending a week with an HE-6 in the next week or so.  going to use a bunch of speaker amps to drive it.  my chance to really check it out thanks to a good friend.

post #2241 of 3090
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post
 

I'm pretty sure they said they were aiming for the HE-6 in sound quality terms.

Yep, thats what I recall.  not equal it though.. but then again, who knows.  could happen.  can't wait

post #2242 of 3090

http://www.head-fi.org/t/698831/fresh-outta-ces-the-hifiman-he-400i-and-he-560/2085#post_10312616

 

 

There's also a reason why they're ok with it to have around the same sound quality as the HE-6.


Edited by TMRaven - 3/4/14 at 8:24pm
post #2243 of 3090
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Originally Posted by akarise View Post

I really didn't expect to suddenly run into a bunch of Pittsburgh head-fiers here all of a sudden haha. Thought I should make a thread where we can discuss a possible meet and not derail this thread any further: http://www.head-fi.org/t/708458/interest-check-pittsburgh-head-fi-meet

I would've loved to join you all, but I moved out eight years ago. Sometimes I still miss the city though. I was just telling my wife today.
post #2244 of 3090
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Originally Posted by musicinmymind View Post
 

I would look forward for reviews from someone who had toyed with HE-6, like preproman, brunk, Al. 

 

after-all Hifiman claims HE-560 equals HE-6 sq and also lot easier to drive. 

not sure if I make your list of not, but I will be spending a week with an HE-6 in the next week or so.  going to use a bunch of speaker amps to drive it.  my chance to really check it out thanks to a good friend.

 

Great, you would enjoy it for sure. I was using HD-650 and HE-400 out of Lyr for long time,  then upgraded to HE-6 (preproman impact) and using with speaker amps. IMHO HE-6 is in different league, with enough juice it is like a monster that would eat HD-650 and HE-400 for breakfast. 

 

But the issue is you need spend a lot for synergy between DAC, Preamp, Poweramp, etc, etc. If HD-560 should as good as HE-6 out of Lyr nothing like it.

post #2245 of 3090

Every man has lied, covered truth, and not full expounded on something they felt was hard to talk about. It makes it harder when you have been given something because it is hard to not feel like you owe someone when they give something to you. That is the way of mans heart. To expect more from man is to be foolish. Jerg is a man. or a woman i don't know. lol

 

Regardless of all the above I am assured that there will be much revealed about the product that we don't know now and that will be extremely useful.

 

So from impressions of these I will be looking for the areas in the reviews that are skipped, kinda glossed over, or not so deeply expounded on.

ie..

 

" the bass is in balance with the mids with adequate punch to satisfy most audiophiles....blah blah... (not so clear) vs  the bass does have the orthodynamic texture and is even tighter and more controlled than its predecessors yet looses out in impact with less quantity.(clearer) "

 

Like the first days on the job after the interview the flaws don't show up to work the first day.


Edited by grizzlybeast - 3/4/14 at 9:48pm
post #2246 of 3090

+1

 

Good Post GrizzlyBeast. Jerg is only human. Obviously, he will try his best to be unbiased and truthful, but it's hard to be brutally honest after you've formed some kind of relationship with Hifiman. Just like you don't tell your wife she looks fat today. :evil: But like you said I think there will be valuable information gained, especially if you can read between the lines and look carefully at what is and isn't said. I think Jude's HD700 review is a textbook example. He tries so very hard to say it's too bright without offending Sennheiser, using very delicate language. Haha.

 

Hopefully the HE-560 won't need any sugarcoating and just be so freaking fantastic and flawless there is nothing much to be said. Haha. Win win for everyone.

 

Plus, at this stage of the game, I doubt Fang will release something blatantly terrible. He's built several pretty nice phones now, and things are likely to only get better, yes maybe a misstep is possible, but he'll respond quickly to negative feedback and fix whatever needs fixing. This man has no problems designing and then redesigning that same phone several times in a course of a few months if necessary (HE-400).


Edited by M-13 - 3/4/14 at 9:52pm
post #2247 of 3090

I think that is the cool thing. People hate revisions but I honestly commend them for fixing the problem and listening to their supporters.

post #2248 of 3090
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I would've loved to join you all, but I moved out eight years ago. Sometimes I still miss the city though. I was just telling my wife today.

 

Ah I didn't know you had left. Yeah it's a nice city, not too big and crowded but comfortable and low cost of living. Seems like people have been trying to get a meet organized here for some time but it never happened so I guess we'll see.

post #2249 of 3090
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Originally Posted by musicinmymind View Post

Great, you would enjoy it for sure. I was using HD-650 and HE-400 out of Lyr for long time,  then upgraded to HE-6 (preproman impact) and using with speaker amps. IMHO HE-6 is in different league, with enough juice it is like a monster that would eat HD-650 and HE-400 for breakfast. 

But the issue is you need spend a lot for synergy between DAC, Preamp, Poweramp, etc, etc. If HD-560 should as good as HE-6 out of Lyr nothing like it.

Preproman did you in too?!
Thought was the only one xP

I have a HE-6 review up and the 560 will join as soon as it's been evaluated thoroughly wink.gif
The sooner it releases the better ;D
Edited by conquerator2 - 3/5/14 at 1:24am
post #2250 of 3090

Going to be perfectly honest, I really have a difficult time finding enough faults in the HE-500 for my brain to even consider something better, lcd3s/X were too dark and hd800s were awesome for classical, but I doubt I could live with them for anything else, nice tube amp or phonitor notwithstanding. I would genuinely be curious how a well driven he-6 compares to the he-500, if it adds more air and spaciousness I suppose that would be an improvement, but it's hard to conceptualize those as issues when I'm sitting here listening to the 500s and I am not thinking with every piece,"Gee if only it had more air and soundstage" As of right now I can't even fathom how the 560s will sound, and if it's something that will clearly offer distinct advantages over the 500, and yet Fang seems to only improve his products so I 100% trust that they will sound better, but I really think it's going to have to be a personal comparison, I know I would struggle to put it to words, at this point it'll be trying to extrapolate the differences between an already established great headphone and one that should be greater, at least in theory.

 

I don't envy Jerg's position. Though I do envy he'll be one of the first to hear it :biggrin:

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