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post #2131 of 3090

HE-400 already does that.

post #2132 of 3090
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HE-400 already does that.

already sounds good enough from a phone?

 

well its okay for us to disagree thats why they make sony v6's... for people i disagree with..

 

(just kidding don't take it seriously:p)

post #2133 of 3090
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HE-400 already does that

Single ended orthos don't, plus the HE400 isn't for me either.

post #2134 of 3090

Regardless if it isn't for you and if it's double-sided, it's still a planar magnetic and it still sounds great out of a phone.

post #2135 of 3090
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post
 

Regardless if it isn't for you and if it's double-sided, it's still a planar magnetic and it still sounds great out of a phone.

to me it sounded horrible out of my iPod and wasn't nearly loud enough. I am pretty sure that as many people as there are that agree with you are those that don't. 

 

If this was the case I highly doubt hifiman would be putting in so much effort to make them more efficient. What ever reasons they have obviously don't include them thinking it sounded good enough from a phone.

post #2136 of 3090
I didnt even like them out of the FiiO E18, felt the lows suffered. I tried them out of my Galaxy 3 and that sounded congested. Maybe my ears are spoiled by the Yulong D100 and NFB10?
Edited by Soundsgoodtome - 3/1/14 at 12:19am
post #2137 of 3090
Actually the HE-500 sounded pretty decent out of a Nexus 5. I had to turn the volume all the way up, but the sound was pretty nice.
post #2138 of 3090
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post
 

Regardless if it isn't for you and if it's double-sided, it's still a planar magnetic and it still sounds great out of a phone.

 

Depends on the phone really, but yeah it can sound good out of a phone. Out of my phone however, an HTC Desire HD, it sounds terrible. Congested, muddy bass, poor volume levels, blurry treble. Much better with a dedicated amp.

post #2139 of 3090

Yea I know some of the Samsung phones sound pretty horrible with bad headphone outs.  At the very least the HE-400 sounds very good out of my 4th generation iPod Touch.  I don't need much more volume than what it provides either-- I'm usually at around 80%.

post #2140 of 3090
Z1 sounds surprisingly good. Beats my Clip+ in separation a bit. The amp is rather weak though, don't think it'd drive any planars.
post #2141 of 3090
The HE-400 sounds acceptable from a portable device. But of course it is better with a solid amp. I am curious how the 400i will sound with both. I guess that certainly lends credence to the i designation. If they are keeping portables in mind will the cable be shorter? Come with one for home and one for on the go? Because the current one is far too long to easily take anywhere.
post #2142 of 3090

For HifiMan, the target for portable ortho keeps moving.

 

Initially the HE-500 was supposed to be portable and sound good without an amp. To emphasize this they got rid of the presentation box and garden hose Canare cables and gave us portable cases and that god-aweful noisy silver/copper cable.

 

They changed their mind a year or so later, brought the presentation box back, stayed with that turrible cable, and started saying that the HE-500 was now recommended with a desktop amp but we now have...

 

The HE-400! which sounds awesome out of a phone (this may be true. I have no idea).

 

And now it's the HE-400i.

 

Nothing wrong with continuing to improve of course. In fact, they might even manage to do it this time. Haha.

 

I used to wonder what the heck is the point of having an open-backed ortho that was portable, but with the dramatic advancement of recent DAPs (HM-901/802, X5/3, DX50/90, AK100/120/240). I guess listening to music on the go (in a quiet area like your office or hotel room) is possible now, so I guess Fang was just ahead of his time.

post #2143 of 3090

^^ Good point. I don't understand the push at the insane efficiency level. Why would you buy the 400i and at least not have a decent portable amp?  And why would you take it out of the house? It's not really a portable hp. Don't get me wrong, I don't want the he-4 amping requirements again. :wink:

post #2144 of 3090
As,long as they use coax entry for the cables, I wouldn't dare taking them outside. The locking mechanism just seems fragile to me. I'd be worried walking with them.
That said, the next Hifiman revision should bring a change to that, so then you perhaps.

OT - can't wait for the 560. Preorder is in.
post #2145 of 3090
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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post

As,long as they use coax entry for the cables, I wouldn't dare taking them outside. The locking mechanism just seems fragile to me. I'd be worried walking with them.
That said, the next Hifiman revision should bring a change to that, so then you perhaps.

OT - can't wait for the 560. Preorder is in.

The SMC connectors are plenty sturdy, they are just annoying as hell to take on and off.

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