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post #2086 of 3090

Hi everyone,

 

The pre-order of HE-560 is still being discussed internally and more details will be revealed soon. 

 

A lot of ppl has asked how we tune the sound of HE-560 and HE-400. The benchmark for HE-560 is our very own HE-6. We wanted HE-560 to provide the same level of sound quality as HE-6 ( (being driven properly) while reducing weight, improving efficiency and a even lower price point. It's quality we really care about, not necessarily signature. Obviously we always prefer a sound that is neutral, transparent, slightly sweet in the mids, airy treble and tighter bass. 

 

Same goes for HE-400i.  We wanted it to provide the same level of sound quality as HE-500 while reducing weight, greatly improving efficiency and a even lower price point. We have done a lot of tweaks specifically to target the bass response. 

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post #2087 of 3090

Hopefully you guys don't change the bass response of the 400i too much!  The original HE-400's bass response is to die for, but its major complaints are in the treble and upper mids.

post #2088 of 3090
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post #2089 of 3090

I'll let you know about that ;) as I'm getting excited about returning to the Hifiman series of planars with your Emotiva.  Whether or not it is the HE-400i or HE-560 I haven't decided. 

 

 

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I just sold my mini x 7 hours Ago!!! I would have shipped it off too. But I believe there is better to be had for he4/500/6.
post #2090 of 3090
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Originally Posted by TeamHiFiMAN View Post
 

Hi everyone,

 

The pre-order of HE-560 is still being discussed internally and more details will be revealed soon. 

 

A lot of ppl has asked how we tune the sound of HE-560 and HE-400. The benchmark for HE-560 is our very own HE-6. We wanted HE-560 to provide the same level of sound quality as HE-6 ( (being driven properly) while reducing weight, improving efficiency and a even lower price point. It's quality we really care about, not necessarily signature. Obviously we always prefer a sound that is neutral, transparent, slightly sweet in the mids, airy treble and tighter bass. 

 

Same goes for HE-400i.  We wanted it to provide the same level of sound quality as HE-500 while reducing weight, greatly improving efficiency and a even lower price point. We have done a lot of tweaks specifically to target the bass response. 

 

Very interesting.  I will be comparing the two...

post #2091 of 3090

I'm curious to see how these compare against the new Fostex Planers that are coming out this Summer. Its going to be reading the comparison test between the two. People saying that the HE-560 is a clear upgrade to the HE-500 is already impressive before taking in account the weight. Its going be an exciting year for new releases :beerchug:

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

:evil:

post #2092 of 3090
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Originally Posted by TeamHiFiMAN View Post
 

Hi everyone,

 

The pre-order of HE-560 is still being discussed internally and more details will be revealed soon. 

 

A lot of ppl has asked how we tune the sound of HE-560 and HE-400. The benchmark for HE-560 is our very own HE-6. We wanted HE-560 to provide the same level of sound quality as HE-6 ( (being driven properly) while reducing weight, improving efficiency and a even lower price point. It's quality we really care about, not necessarily signature. Obviously we always prefer a sound that is neutral, transparent, slightly sweet in the mids, airy treble and tighter bass. 

 

Same goes for HE-400i.  We wanted it to provide the same level of sound quality as HE-500 while reducing weight, greatly improving efficiency and a even lower price point. We have done a lot of tweaks specifically to target the bass response. 


 That's fantastic ... We're rooting for you to achieve those goals. Good luck!

post #2093 of 3090
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It's quality we really care about, not necessarily signature.

Could You please explain better this point?

Thanks
Pp
post #2094 of 3090
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Originally Posted by TeamHiFiMAN View Post
 

Hi everyone,

 

The pre-order of HE-560 is still being discussed internally and more details will be revealed soon. 

 

A lot of ppl has asked how we tune the sound of HE-560 and HE-400. The benchmark for HE-560 is our very own HE-6. We wanted HE-560 to provide the same level of sound quality as HE-6 ( (being driven properly) while reducing weight, improving efficiency and a even lower price point. It's quality we really care about, not necessarily signature. Obviously we always prefer a sound that is neutral, transparent, slightly sweet in the mids, airy treble and tighter bass. 

 

Same goes for HE-400i.  We wanted it to provide the same level of sound quality as HE-500 while reducing weight, greatly improving efficiency and a even lower price point. We have done a lot of tweaks specifically to target the bass response. 

That is just evil.  :D:p  I was doing good with self-control till I read that sentence.  :L3000:

post #2095 of 3090
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That is just evil.  biggrin.giftongue.gif   I was doing good with self-control till I read that sentence.  L3000.gif
Sound quality, not sound as in freq response...which is the thing I care the most about in hi-fi.
post #2096 of 3090
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Sound quality, not sound as in freq response...which is the thing I care the most about in hi-fi.


Young man, you can't have decent sound quality if your freq response is all jacked up.  They are directly related.

post #2097 of 3090
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Young man, you can't have decent sound quality if your freq response is all jacked up.  They are directly related.
Not exactly... You can have great detail extraction (kind of), imaging, and Soundstaging without a linear FR. Especially since only a small change in FR is a big change in our perceived sound.
post #2098 of 3090
I would like to see the mids to be more direct and flat. Current iteration seems a little bit recessed. Although the relaxing sound is not bad, I think more authentic and energetic sound would be generally prefered.
post #2099 of 3090
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post


Young man, you can't have decent sound quality if your freq response is all jacked up.  They are directly related.
Not exactly... You can have great detail extraction (kind of), imaging, and Soundstaging without a linear FR. Especially since only a small change in FR is a big change in our perceived sound.

It ain't black and white. FR relates to sound quality to some extend and isn't just coloration like warm, dark, bright. I suppose nobody likes unnatural and jacked mids and highs that sound way 'off'? The FR will on the other hand also affect imaging, perceived detail extraction and soundstage to some degree. Good luck creating a superb soundstage and imaging in a headphone with a 20 dB treble roll off...

 

Personally, I won't officially be on the market before hifiman has released the 560 and 400i along with their Jade 2 and the new fostex and oppo is out.


Edited by davidsh - 2/27/14 at 11:31am
post #2100 of 3090
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Originally Posted by TeamHiFiMAN View Post

Hi everyone,

In terms of tonality (frequency response), you guys should just go out and buy a HD600 and tune the 400i exactly the way it sounds. And I mean exactly.

 

For the HE-560, go out and get the Focal Spirit Professional and tune it exactly the way it sounds. Seriously, Dr. Fang if you do this you will destroy Audez'e/Sennheiser and become the #1 headphone company. Haha. :evil:

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