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post #2011 of 3091
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

I know HE500 had a cosmetic change, where they changed the outer shells from a matt gunmetal finish to a glossy one. Earpads did change when they updated them from the old flimsy clear plastic tabs to the new detachable black plastic mounting rings.

 

Do you happen to know when those changes happened for the He-500. In the Battle of the Flagships topic which is from late 2012 it lists the He-500 as having no known revisions. 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared-update-audeze-lcd-2-revision-2-6-4-13#user_HE500

 

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  • REVISIONS KNOWN: None Known to Me

 

I tried looking for some articles or web-pages that lists those revisions which you list and haven't come upon anything describing those revisions or changes.

post #2012 of 3091
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Originally Posted by Ordo Ab Chao View Post
 

 

Do you happen to know when those changes happened for the He-500. In the Battle of the Flagships topic which is from late 2012 it lists the He-500 as having no known revisions. 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared-update-audeze-lcd-2-revision-2-6-4-13#user_HE500

 

 

I tried looking for some articles or web-pages that lists those revisions which you list and haven't come upon anything describing those revisions or changes.

Revision typically means a very substantial change especially with sound (e.g. driver improvement or fixing a design defect) and is important enough to let everyone know. A small cosmetic change like making the cups glossy instead of matte wouldn't be deemed that at all.

 

As for how long ago that was, I'd say maybe the coat change was after the first year of HE500s out?

post #2013 of 3091
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Being an early adopter always has it's pros and cons, the multiple rev's of the HE400 come to mind. A special pre-order price would probably make me go for it too.

 

Yeah I'm a bit worried about issues with the early production versions but I'm hoping HiFiMAN has improved their quality control at this point. If the HE-560 pre-order price is like $800, I definitely won't be able to say no lol.

post #2014 of 3091

Does HiFiMAN have a history of offering lower pre-order prices (vs. list prices) when introducing a new model?

 

 

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Originally Posted by akarise View Post
 

 

Yeah I'm a bit worried about issues with the early production versions but I'm hoping HiFiMAN has improved their quality control at this point. If the HE-560 pre-order price is like $800, I definitely won't be able to say no lol.

post #2015 of 3091

^^ Yes, I believe that the he400 was discounted $50 on the pre-order.

post #2016 of 3091
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^^ Yes, I believe that the he400 was discounted $50 on the pre-order.


Now I understand why you were so insistent on a preorder lol.

post #2017 of 3091
What was the release price on the he400? I wasn't even into the hobby when they came out.
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^^ Yes, I believe that the he400 was discounted $50 on the pre-order.
post #2018 of 3091
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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post

What was the release price on the he400? I wasn't even into the hobby when they came out.

$400 has always been the standard price.

post #2019 of 3091

You know what would be sick!

 

he-500  balance

jerg pads 

lcd2 bass

hd650 smoothness

all in this frame:

post #2020 of 3091
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

You know what would be sick!

 

he-500  balance

jerg pads 

lcd2 bass

hd650 smoothness

all in this frame:

To be honest, that headband just looks plain uncomfortable; hotspots galore. You need either wide heavily-padded "pillow-like" headband, or wide suspension-strap headband, for true headband comfort.

post #2021 of 3091
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

To be honest, that headband just looks plain uncomfortable; hotspots galore. You need either wide heavily-padded "pillow-like" headband, or wide suspension-strap headband, for true headband comfort.

Weight is more important, unless the headband has a very poor design, like the K-701.

 

The TH-600 was very comfy even though his headband looks pretty much like the Ultrasone.

post #2022 of 3091
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

To be honest, that headband just looks plain uncomfortable; hotspots galore. You need either wide heavily-padded "pillow-like" headband, or wide suspension-strap headband, for true headband comfort.

innerfidelity regarding the edition 10

 

"In hand, the first thing that struck me is how amazingly light they are. Once on the head, the headphones are light as a feather. With the sumptuous leather surrounding and caressing your head, you’ll feel like you could wear them all day without the least discomfort.

That is, until you turn the music on." 

 

I dont think you need a suspension strap to make a hp comfortable or thick cushion, just even weight distribution. 


Edited by grizzlybeast - 2/23/14 at 12:00am
post #2023 of 3091
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post
 

Weight is more important, unless the headband has a very poor design, like the K-701.

 

The TH-600 was very comfy even though his headband looks pretty much like the Ultrasone.


You could turn that around easily by saying weight is less important if you have a good headband design though.

post #2024 of 3091
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

innerfidelity regarding the edition 10

 

"In hand, the first thing that struck me is how amazingly light they are. Once on the head, the headphones are light as a feather. With the sumptuous leather surrounding and caressing your head, you’ll feel like you could wear them all day without the least discomfort.

That is, until you turn the music on." 

 

I dont think you need a suspension strap to make a hp comfortable or thick cushion, just even weight distribution. 

...Why not both? It is simple physics that a wider, flexible suspension strap will distribute pressure/cm^2 more evenly than a thinner, solid headband. Weight and headband ergonomics are not mutually exclusive for comfort.

post #2025 of 3091
Nothing has ever touched the Steelseries Siberia V1 or V2 headband for me. That thing is the BAWLS. Suspension, nicely padded, plenty of give...

Suspensions style headbands are just the best idea in terms of comfort and design. As long as it has enough extension, it will alway be a perfect fit.

Of course, you have the old AKG 70x headbands, but blame the bumps and lack of extension/give that gave it horrible comfort.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 2/23/14 at 12:43am
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