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post #1471 of 3090

Audeze pads are a no-no for people with relatively wider craniums (like me), it just adds a ton of clamp and also the angling disappears because the thicker part gets squished.

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Audeze pads are a no-no for people with relatively wider craniums (like me), it just adds a ton of clamp and also the angling disappears because the thicker part gets squished.


 



Oh that make sense why I feel like there is no sound stage on LCDs. Both my leather and vegan pads get squished all the time.

thanks,
post #1473 of 3090
i have he500 and i love it!
post #1474 of 3090
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Audeze pads are a no-no for people with relatively wider craniums (like me), it just adds a ton of clamp and also the angling disappears because the thicker part gets squished.

 



Oh that make sense why I feel like there is no sound stage on LCDs. Both my leather and vegan pads get squished all the time.

thanks,

It's part of the reason why "hard angling" of the drivers, within the cups, is more reliable of a design choice than angled earpads, because the former will be consistent across different users, while the latter won't.

post #1475 of 3090

Our new leather pads will be sightly angled as well. Not as much as LCD pads. just enough to give better support on the back side of your ears. We have also spend a lot time on choosing the best sounding materials for contracting the pads. It's not a secret that ear pads have a big effect on the sound of the headphone, and we think that you guys will really like our new design. 

 

We showed a prototype during CES, and the feedback was great. David Chesky insisted taking a pair with him despite our strong hesitation. :cool: 

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post #1476 of 3090
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Our new leather pads will be sightly angled as well. Not as much as LCD pads. just enough to give better support on the back side of your ears. We have also spend a lot time on choosing the best sounding materials for contracting the pads. It's not a secret that ear pads have a big effect on the sound of the headphone, and we think that you guys will really like our new design. 

 

We showed a prototype during CES, and the feedback was great. David Chesky insisted taking a pair with him despite our strong hesitation. :cool: 

 

If you're doing velours for the new cans, you should seriously consider upgrading from what you used for the HE-500s (and others, I assume).  Check out the velour on the AKG pads.  After wearing those, using the HFM velours is... uncomfortable, to put it mildly.  The AKG pads are not expensive, so I assume the materials used are not expensive.  I use the Q701 pads on my HE-500s.  Softer, slightly angled, better foam, more room.  I cannot go back.

 

I love my HE-500s, and can't see ever selling them, but the new pads need some serious work.  Now is a good time to make pads worthy of your awesome headphones.  This is a far bigger deal than the cable connector debate, IMO.

 

Apologies if that sounds harsh, but having used all three pads, plus homemade jerg pads, my ears and head know what they like.

post #1477 of 3090
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If you're doing velours for the new cans, you should seriously consider upgrading from what you used for the HE-500s (and others, I assume).  Check out the velour on the AKG pads.  After wearing those, using the HFM velours is... uncomfortable, to put it mildly.  The AKG pads are not expensive, so I assume the materials used are not expensive.  I use the Q701 pads on my HE-500s.  Softer, slightly angled, better foam, more room.  I cannot go back.

 

I love my HE-500s, and can't see ever selling them, but the new pads need some serious work.  Now is a good time to make pads worthy of your awesome headphones.  This is a far bigger deal than the cable connector debate, IMO.

 

Apologies if that sounds harsh, but having used all three pads, plus homemade jerg pads, my ears and head know what they like.

 

yes, there will be an improved velour pads as well. Hopefully everyone will like them. 

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post #1478 of 3090

imo officious

post #1479 of 3090
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yes, there will be an improved velour pads as well. Hopefully everyone will like them. 

You probably just need to use the same velour as < 2012

post #1480 of 3090
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It's part of the reason why "hard angling" of the drivers, within the cups, is more reliable of a design choice than angled earpads, because the former will be consistent across different users, while the latter won't.

 



I am with you, look at the german engineering (sens and beyer). smily_headphones1.gif
I sent a request to Audeze to make the flat (non angled pads), not sure they will ever make one but it's in the ticket queue.
post #1481 of 3090

Angling a large, planar magnetic driver seems like a tricky proposition. 

post #1482 of 3090
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yes, there will be an improved velour pads as well. Hopefully everyone will like them. 

 

That's good to hear :smile:

post #1483 of 3090

for the new pads, would you guys recommend to retro fit them to the existing HiFiMan models? 

post #1484 of 3090

I'll be sure to get both the improved [p]leather pads as well as the improved velours then. If one or the other does not come with the headphone, that is.

I'll have two distinctively different sound signatures with one headphone like that :]

 

Now if I only knew which of the two HPs to get :D

It'd be great to post a FR graph for them here IMO. I certainly don't base my decisions on that sort of things, but if'd certainly be a great help [along with some impressions].

 

I wonder if the cables remained the same too...

post #1485 of 3090

Yeah, maybe we can get some clarification on the cables?

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