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post #1456 of 3090

Looks Cool~

post #1457 of 3090

As long as SQ is better or same as LCD2.2 I will buy. Audezes are really not comfortable, especially LCD-XC, too heavy and the annoying clamping force.

Another thing, why they can't make angled drivers ? and not the angled pads.  Angle pads are the reason of clamping force, not distributing the pressure evenly.

 

HE-570 should fix that issue, no more angle pads.

post #1458 of 3090
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As long as SQ is better or same as LCD2.2 I will buy. Audezes are really not comfortable, especially LCD-XC, too heavy and the annoying clamping force.
Another thing, why they can't make angled drivers ? and not the angled pads.  Angle pads are the reason of clamping force, not distributing the pressure evenly.

HE-570 should fix that issue, no more angle pads.
Angles pads are better fort comfort ans deal. They are not what make clamping high or low: the headband is.

Also, their tonality will be very different from LCD-2 and technicality - while probably on par or better - won't be the deciding factor at this point. With the 560 heading towards the HE-6 bright signature, I doubt most people would love both it and the Audeze (on the same setup, same songs, same ears, blabla).
post #1459 of 3090
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Angles pads are better fort comfort ans deal. They are not what make clamping high or low: the headband is.

Also, their tonality will be very different from LCD-2 and technicality - while probably on par or better - won't be the deciding factor at this point. With the 560 heading towards the HE-6 bright signature, I doubt most people would love both it and the Audeze (on the same setup, same songs, same ears, blabla).


+1

I'm quite curious as to how the he-400i will compare to the he-500 though. If it is comparable to the HE-500 and a lower price...well I think we all know what will happen to the price of the discontinued HE-500s will be :/

post #1460 of 3090

i found the audeze to be VERY comfortable.  more comfortable than the 400, either pad.  the pleathers on the 400 were much more comfortable than the velours however.

post #1461 of 3090
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i found the audeze to be VERY comfortable.  more comfortable than the 400, either pad.  the pleathers on the 400 were much more comfortable than the velours however.

+1 more comfortable than the he500 to me. I was surprised at all of the complaints. 

post #1462 of 3090
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My HE-5le came with a canare-ish cable terminated in xlr with a pig tail with neutrik 1/4" jack.

 

 

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i found the audeze to be VERY comfortable.  more comfortable than the 400, either pad.  the pleathers on the 400 were much more comfortable than the velours however.

I need to try an LCD X... I'll be trying a LCD 2 here shortly 

post #1463 of 3090
I too think angled pads increase comfort rather than decrease it wink.gif
Looking forward to first reviews ahead of release hopefully wink.gif
post #1464 of 3090
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Angles pads are better fort comfort ans deal. They are not what make clamping high or low: the headband is.



 



I thought it was the headband until I took out the yoke and studied, the way all the LCDs mount the headband on the yoke was done incorrectly due to angled pads design.

There are 3 things Audeze need to fix,

1. place the headband to yoke pivot point in the middle
2. make angle drivers like sens and beyer, there is reason for this
3. make flat, non angle pads.

You should try to take out parts and study the pressure points, I don't have Audeze anymore, sold all of them.
post #1465 of 3090
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Angles pads are better fort comfort ans deal. They are not what make clamping high or low: the headband is.


 

 



I thought it was the headband until I took out the yoke and studied, the way all the LCDs mount the headband on the yoke was done incorrectly due to angled pads design.

There are 3 things Audeze need to fix,

1. place the headband to yoke pivot point in the middle
2. make angle drivers like sens and beyer, there is reason for this
3. make flat, non angle pads.

You should try to take out parts and study the pressure points, I don't have Audeze anymore, sold all of them.

 

I can possibly agree with #1, but #2 and #3? Really...:blink:

post #1466 of 3090
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I can possibly agree with #1, but #2 and #3? Really..." src="http://files.head-fi.org/images/smilies/blink.gif">

 



Haha, I am not here to convince anyone,, just my opinion smily_headphones1.gif If you are happy with the angle design then who cares right ?
This is just my pov.
post #1467 of 3090
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I can possibly agree with #1, but #2 and #3? Really...<img data-cke-saved-src=

 



Haha, I am not here to convince anyone,, just my opinion smily_headphones1.gif If you are happy with the angle design then who cares right ?
This is just my pov.

 

No worries, it's all good. :biggrin:

post #1468 of 3090

Personally the reasons why I find Audeze pads to more comfortable compared to the current HiFiMan pads are the larger contact surface area (between the pads and your noggin) and the softer foam (or at least it feels softer to me). I don't think that being angled inherently makes the pads more comfortable.

post #1469 of 3090

The angled aspect, larger contact area and oval shape of the Audeze pads makes them a much better fit for me.  The angled aspect and larger contact area in the back helps, because I find that there's always a gap there behind your ears with regular round or flat pads.

post #1470 of 3090
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post



Angles pads are better fort comfort ans deal. They are not what make clamping high or low: the headband is.


 

 



I thought it was the headband until I took out the yoke and studied, the way all the LCDs mount the headband on the yoke was done incorrectly due to angled pads design.

There are 3 things Audeze need to fix,

1. place the headband to yoke pivot point in the middle
2. make angle drivers like sens and beyer, there is reason for this
3. make flat, non angle pads.

You should try to take out parts and study the pressure points, I don't have Audeze anymore, sold all of them.

Actually my Audio Technica Has Angled Pads adn Drivers, and it sounds epic, the clarity and accuracy of the sound stage, along with the depth are great, It's not as wide as my DT 880 was, but it's sure as heck deeper. I've not compared it against the HE 4 though, 

 

still angled pads are helpful, as are drivers 

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