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post #1111 of 3090
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Oh, I mean that I hope people actually pay attention to the 400i, instead of just completely ignoring it just because there is a higher end model. As some have stated, just because it's higher end, doesn't mean it may suit your preferences.

You can put it in your guide. That should be more than enough publicity to get it started anyway.

 

If the phone is good it'll get known. I think the reason the HE-4 flew under the rader is that they're hard to drive. I don't think the HE-4 was ignored anymore than the HE-5LE was, They were both ignored. Haha. I think the first "hit" Hifiman had on their hands was the HE-500 and then it was the HE-400, because it was cheap and easily driven, not because it was necessarily better sounding than the HE-4. HE-6 had a slow following in the beginning which sort of grew and is now fairly big.

 

If the 400i sounds like the HE-500 and is in a cheaper lighter package. Trust me, it's going to be VERY POPULAR. Hell it'll be the #1 recommendation for under $500 period.


Edited by M-13 - 1/25/14 at 1:32pm
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An emotiva mini-x or even a tubemagic A-1 can drive the he4 and 6 out of speaker taps and are $200 amps. HE4 is as underunderrated as some hp are overhyped imo.

Mine are running sans grill and star felt for that open, airy, and out of the head, speaker-like sound. Angled Denon pads brought staging and bass impact to a better levels as well (still going to play with back vents and thicker padding on this).

With or without mods (more so with mods) I think the he4 are the best bang for the buck if you don't count having to buy an amp for it. Although one can think of buying an amp as another item in your chain so you can't really count that towards the cost of the HP in a sense of cost. 2W at 32 Ohms should suffice. As my HE4 is now, I would only prefer the he6 being more enjoyable by not much and that's not considering price differences.
Edited by Soundsgoodtome - 1/25/14 at 2:51pm
post #1113 of 3090
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Originally Posted by money4me247 View Post

from the posts i read, people make it sound like the he4 outperforms every single headphone on the market. lol. sounds to me like they are being over-hyped by owners & under-appreciated by everyone else. hilarious.



Its like that for pretty much every flagship or high end headphone... :P
post #1114 of 3090
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Originally Posted by money4me247 View Post
 

mmm... well that is more the fault of people buying headphones not doing adequate research. i knew about the he-4 before i pulled the trigger on my he-400. didn't want to commit to more expensive amp/dac equipment.

 

hahah it's actually chill to bring up the he-4 on the he-400 thread, but i find it kinda funny. do he4 owners really think the only reason that less people have the he4 is because they haven't heard of it? from the posts i read, people make it sound like the he4 outperforms every single headphone on the market. lol. sounds to me like they are being over-hyped by owners & under-appreciated by everyone else. hilarious.

 

Nope - but they out perform the HE-400s by a few miles..

post #1115 of 3090
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

Nope - but they out perform the HE-400s by a few miles..

 

mmm... i dunno. i am a bit skeptical of that claim. besides from that one thread by thujone raving about the he-4 over the he-400 & the he-500, that doesn't seem to be a commonly held opinion. obviously, the he-4 is more power hungry, so if you are required to use a nicer set-up with it, that in itself can account for the perceived improvement as well as whatever sound signature preferences certain people have.

 

edit: no offense, but i have found that owners of specific gear tend to me more biased towards their particular pair of headphones hahah.


Edited by money4me247 - 1/25/14 at 2:39pm
post #1116 of 3090

^^ I'll back the statement by preproman up. I've owned the he-4 2x. With the right amp it's better than the he400 by...well, a few miles. :wink: 

 

The problem is the most people don't appreciate just how much it takes to drive it. And assume that the current amp they have will be good enough. Often this is not the case. 

 

The amping requirements for the he4/6 are pretty much the same. Go ahead and assume that the amp needed for the 6 will be the one you'd want for the 4. Then you can hear it in all it's glory. 

post #1117 of 3090
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Originally Posted by money4me247 View Post
 

hahaha people spamming the HE-400 thread with HE-4 talk is sooo silly & kinda annoying :rolleyes:

 

obviously, if we had wanted a HE-4, we would be on the HE-4 thread. i feel like most people who bought a he-400 already did their research & picked it for a specific reason as the hifiman products are pretty obscure outside the world of audiophiles.

I'll have to disagree here as well.  I do a lot of homework, and I really did think that the HE-4 went away like the HE-5.  I thought the 400 took its place.  had I realized that it was new and still around, I would have wanted to check it out as well.  well, I actually do want to check it out.

 

I agree though that hifiman in general is still not a mainstream headphone outside of enthusiasts.

post #1118 of 3090

I don't own the HE-4 or the HE-400.  However, I have owned all of the HEs except the 300 and the 400.  I had the HE-400 in house 2 different times for about a month each.  Could not get with it. 

 

I know the HE-400s are liked by lots of people.  Most of those have not heard other HiFiMan headphones to compare with.  Sorry but for me.  The HE-400 sucked.

post #1119 of 3090
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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post

An emotiva mini-x or even a tubemagic A-1 can drive the he4 and 6 out of speaker taps and are $200 amps. HE4 is as underunderrated as some hp are overhyped imo.

 

I own the Emotiva and have had one for longer than most people on Head-Fi, so I might know about this too.

 

The Emotiva mini-X was not around when the HE-4 was released, so that's my point.

post #1120 of 3090

we should be getting back to 400i and 560 land, but a question rises in my mind.  speaker amps are recommended for the 4 and 6.  wouldn't it be more cost effective for most people to get the  4 or 6 headphones, because what audio enthusiast doesn't have a speaker amp in their house?  buying any of the other hifiman offerings requires getting a separate HP amp.

post #1121 of 3090
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

There is overshadowing, and there is complete dismissal and ignorance. It didn't go under the radar. It was basically completely forgotten.

All we got online was some misinforming reviews from headphone sites, with one popular site stating the HE4 was easy to drive. It needed more TLC. Severely underrated. So many people love the DT880, yet didn't know what the HE-4. Such a mistake.


Honestly Hifiman as a brand is somewhat of an underdog. When I wanted to upgrade from my HD600, I was only considering the HD800 and LCD-X. Then multiple people asked me to consider HE-500 as well. I am glad they did. I returned the HD800 and LCD-2, and kept the HE-500 instead. 

 

Oh, I didn't know HE-4 existed until this thread. Actually, until about three days ago, I thought HE-4 was the now defunct Hifiman with wood cups  :)


Edited by zxc - 1/25/14 at 4:40pm
post #1122 of 3090
If he4 owners are so passionate about their self-proclaimed under appreciated headphone, then maybe one of them should offer a touring demo of their personal he4 and make the participants post impressions of them. This is what other owners of other less popular headphones do.
post #1123 of 3090

^^ MLE did just that with the ma900. That's why I bought them. 

post #1124 of 3090
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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post

 

I'm curious as to how these new drivers differ in design from the HE4.
 

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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

If he4 owners are so passionate about their self-proclaimed under appreciated headphone, then maybe one of them should offer a touring demo of their personal he4 and make the participants post impressions of them. This is what other owners of other less popular headphones do.

There are sellers who have a fantastic return policies for that lol

post #1125 of 3090

Have heard the HE-4 once, and indeed I found it to be substantially more to my liking than HE-400.

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