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post #106 of 3090
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Definitely more modern, functional and ergonomic, almost Stax-like (which is fine by me) but still unique enough.  The older style definitely looks more 'vintage' which I also like, but I think it's still a good approach.  I think the color scheme looks better on the HE-400i in these pictures given the new headband materials.  Also, you'll notice if you look close that the SMC connectors appear to be slightly angled towards the front :cool:

 

Nice catch, no more cables hitting my shoulders! There doesn't seem to be anything Hifiman hasn't improved so far which is awesome. Ok ok maybe the connector types but I can live with that.


Edited by beaver316 - 1/8/14 at 9:25am
post #107 of 3090
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I take back what I said about the design. They look stunning!

 

Ditto.  Much more flattering angle, those pics.

post #108 of 3090
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Nice catch, no more cables hitting my shoulders! There doesn't seem to be anything Hifiman hasn't improved so far which is awesome. Ok ok maybe the connector types but I can live with that.

 

Yes, this is a great modification.  Fang & Co. certainly seem to be listening to their customers and making thoughtful changes.  Now, about those pads... really hope they are interchangeable with older models.  It's a nice, simple mounting ring solution, so why change that? ;)

post #109 of 3090
I'm definitely okay with the old connectors. Never really understood the hassle except they might be a little fragile..
post #110 of 3090

I'm now wondering what the bundled cable will be like. Hopefully it's not as long and stiff as the current HE-400 cable.

post #111 of 3090
Almost decided on upgrading to LCD-2, then along comes the HE-560. Really wish to know if these headphones are kind or unforgiving of less than perfect recordings. Is the treble presentation improved? Also how do these headphones compete against the already established heavy hitters. It seems they already have a win in the weight/comfort department. Time will tell I guess.
Edited by Zuckfun - 1/8/14 at 9:45am
post #112 of 3090

I think these new models are really stunning.  I love all the changes they made.  Having had the pleasure of meeting Fang several times, he always impressed me with his approach and care for good sound.  He puts a lot into his products and stands by them.  He has clearly listened to the feedback and has made some changes is response.

 

Hifiman ruled the orthodynamic landscape when they came out with their products.  People were amazed by the "new" technology and what it could do.  I am excited to see what Fang has done with these new models.  They have had a lot of time to play with the tech and iron out production issues.  

 

exciting times.  as I was trying to figure out where to go next without spending thousands of dollars.

post #113 of 3090
The HE4 is still the lightest at 350g lol.

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post #114 of 3090
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The HE4 is still the lightest at 350g lol.

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It's quite a few magnitudes less efficient than these models though. Efficiency of the HE4 was a heavy compromise at the time to trade for reduced weight.

post #115 of 3090
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It's quite a few magnitudes less efficient than these models though. Efficiency of the HE4 was a heavy compromise at the time to trade for reduced weight.

 

It's the most airy of them all. I don't know if one can call them "Electrostat-like" - I never heard a stat - but airy is generally associated with the stats sound.

If they made a more efficient / more refined version of the HE-4, I'm all in!

post #116 of 3090
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Yes, this is a great modification.  Fang & Co. certainly seem to be listening to their customers and making thoughtful changes.  Now, about those pads... really hope they are interchangeable with older models.  It's a nice, simple mounting ring solution, so why change that? ;)

Word on the street is that the new pads will fit on all models (I think Fang confirmed this somewhere other than head-fi).  That indicates that the cups are the same size, so the new headband should also fit on current models...it's just a matter if that will be available separate as well, which it should be since you can order current headbands directly from head-direct by contacting their customer support.  They have excellent customer support from my experiences so far!

 :beerchug: 

post #117 of 3090

Lightweight ortho? Now you got me interested. 

post #118 of 3090
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Originally Posted by modulor View Post
 

Word on the street is that the new pads will fit on all models (I think Fang confirmed this somewhere other than head-fi).  That indicates that the cups are the same size, so the new headband should also fit on current models...it's just a matter if that will be available separate as well, which it should be since you can order current headbands directly from head-direct by contacting their customer support.  They have excellent customer support from my experiences so far!

 :beerchug: 

 

The headband style on these models look complete different than the ones on the old...  I don't think the headbands will be backward compatible.  The entire mechanism looks to be reworked.  I don't have the HE-400, but the 400i looks to swivel and the actual connection between the housing and the headband (through the arms) is quite a drastic change.  The new headbands are also dual headbands as well.  I could be wrong, but they definitely don't look like they would be backward compatible.

 

The pads I'll believe though.  

post #119 of 3090
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The headband style on these models look complete different than the ones on the old...  I don't think the headbands will be backward compatible.  The entire mechanism looks to be reworked.  I don't have the HE-400, but the 400i looks to swivel and the actual connection between the housing and the headband (through the arms) is quite a drastic change.  The new headbands are also dual headbands as well.  I could be wrong, but they definitely don't look like they would be backward compatible.

 

The pads I'll believe though.  

Actually the "headband" is everything other than the cups(containing the drivers)/earpads, so yes, they should be compatible. You're thinking of just the top piece but the gimbals/yoke are also part of the headband that Hifiman could sell to customers separately.

post #120 of 3090
True! They're in the realms of he6 inefficiency. First thing people commented on at the meet was: man these are light for orthos!
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It's quite a few magnitudes less efficient than these models though. Efficiency of the HE4 was a heavy compromise at the time to trade for reduced weight.
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