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need an amp for using the beyer dt 770 pro 80 omh, I heard fiios are good portable amps, e17 ok?

post #1 of 10
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After looking for a new pair of headphones I ended up deciding to get the beyerdynamic dt 770 pro 80 ohms and I will be plugging it mostly in my samsung galaxy s4 (MAYBE, DEPENDS ON WETHER ITS WORTH GETTING A DEDICATED PLAYER) and in my gaming pc, the reason I wont use anything else like a cowon x7 to hear mt music is because of saving issues and portability/ convenience, so ill be plugging it into the android using poweramp software apk, I havent bpught the dt 770 pro 80 yet but I want to get them with a case AND MAYBE an amp depending on what we conclude on, so I pretty much hear to evert music genre, mostly heavy rock, trance and ambient music... im a basshead but I like to head mids alot so if tou guys think I should get one then recommend me which one, I heard the fiio 7 is cool and there is the fiio 11 but doesnt have DAC, I read about DAC but didnt understand what it means yeah im new to amps and ive never tried one. I can exted up to getting a fiio17 but I also read somethig of an "8 times rule" so I think that its a bad idea... please no " if you doubt it you dont need it" comments, thank you smily_headphones1.gif
Edited by TegraStorm - 1/7/14 at 12:52pm
post #2 of 10
Yes. The fiio e11 is perfect.
post #3 of 10
I have no idea what the "8 times rule" is.

The DT770 will work from the phone. It will probably sound better with an amp. I would try it, see if you are happy with the volume level, and if not, then get an amp. The DAC is only useful for your PC - it bypasses your PC's sound card and sends the audio out the USB port. Think of the DAC as a simple USB stereo soundcard. Many gamers fail to understand the ramifications of this - it also means it is no longer going to use all the fancy multichannel processing done by your gaming soundcard. If you still want to use your PC's soundcard, then you would hook the amp to the stereo lineout jacks of the soundcard. There is no mic input on either a headphone DAC or headphone amp, so the mic has to go elsewhere.
post #4 of 10
They sounded quiet and less dynamic unamped.
post #5 of 10

the rule is over-ear always need an amp to shine

post #6 of 10
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Interesting... thankd for the answers, I asked because im not a super audiophile or whatever you can call it, but I do notice a big difference between mp3 an FLAC tho, right now I was just reading about music dedicated portables like the fiio x3 and (sorry for the subject change) maybe instead of getting an s4 I could go over and get an x3, but I have 3 dilemmas:

- there is no audio dedicated hardware where I live so I am lomited to having a subjective idea
- my whole music library is more than 100gb and its increasing so a portable with a higher capacity is preferable ( I thought about sticking a 64gb microsd into the s4 and having other microsd's for whenever I want to listen to other artists)
- money (I wouldnt get a music player over 300, preferably around 150)

I only own a few fully lossless vinyl rips so i dont mind not getting a device to hear this ones

My motherboard on my pc sadly doesnt have any more ports for a sound card (bye asus xonar frown.gif...
So I thought about using an amp as my sound card which ik its not even close to being the same.

The " 8 times rule " I read about talks about getting the sound distorted if my headphones are over certain ohms and the amp is too.
post #7 of 10
I personally can't hear the difference between flac and 320kbps.

The X3 would be a substantial improvement.
post #8 of 10
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Alot of people think it it may be mental but in reality humans cant tell the difference, this may be true but i swear I can hear higher pitched sounds and bass heavy sounds, same with a much more "crispy" sound (best word I can use to describe it) with flac (an example Iis a song called "isoline" by helios, heardbit on youtube an in official page, liked it, downloaded it and after download you can hear a very high pitched "cricket" sound in it, in the spectrum its also visible which in mp3 it isnt even visible or hearable... or maybe my young age (17yrs) ice heard 20000hz recordings which i am able to hear and none of my parents can (age again).

anyways what difference would I have from hearing music in a samsung s4 and the x3? Specifically, would it be any better? My flac files are in average 1100kbps, I do own some 5000kbps rips I downloaded (lost my dream theater CD, so I consider the download legit) but thats as high as it gets, I dont own any 24/196 mainly cause my current hardware isnt worth of suck.. ehm I mean such bitrate. Is there any other music player with hifh capacity that I can get over the x3? The cowon x7 seems like a good choice IMO, tell me what do you think
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After looking for a new pair of headphones I ended up deciding to get the Beyerdynamic dt 770 pro 80 ohms and I will be plugging it mostly in my Samsung galaxy s4 and in my gaming pc, the reason I wont use anything else like a Cowon x7 to hear mt music is because of saving issues and portability/ convenience, so ill be plugging it into the android using poweramp software apk, I haven't bought the DT 770 pro 80 yet but I want to get them with a case AND MAYBE an amp depending on what we conclude on, so I pretty much hear to evert music genre, mostly heavy rock, trance and ambient music... I'm a basshead but I like to head mids a lot so if tou guys think I should get one then recommend me which one, I heard the Fiio 7 is cool and there is the fiio 11 but doesn't have DAC, I read about DAC but didn't understand what it means yeah im new to amps and I've never tried one. I can exted up to getting a fiio17 but I also read something of an "8 times rule" so I think that its a bad idea... please no " if you doubt it you dont need it" comments, thank you smily_headphones1.gif

You might consider getting headphones like the JVC HA-S680 ($80) folding on-ear headphones for use with your Galaxy S4, the S680 are only 32-Ohm, so you would not need to buy a portable headphone amplifier.

Then buy a second pair of headphones for use with the gaming PC.

 

The "8 times rule" is more like a guide line, as sometimes it's just not practical, I use headphone and amp combos that are more like 5 to 1 or 4 to 1, for impedance.

post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 
I would like to squish all the juice on the dt's so a possibility is to get a cheaper phone and get a good music player, as the last thing I posted here, I liked for the music player I saw (the fiio x3) and it looks pretty good, only issue is capacity, a 120 - 160gb music player would be really good... there arent any good stores in my country (Guatemala) so no store sells amps here or any other kind of decent mp3 flac player, any other recommendations you can give me based on what I just said would be greatly appreciated, please reply... thanks
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