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post #376 of 740
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i dont know if this topic has been posted already above but iv heard about the upcoming PURE II+..
anyone?

Where did u get the info from? I'd love to see a pure 2+
post #377 of 740
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Where did u get the info from? I'd love to see a pure 2+


from here: https://www.facebook.com/MusicaAcoustics?fref=ts

post #378 of 740

Good point. I'm new to this I'm trying to figure things out as I go along.

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$589 is ridiculous enough but $999 is just stupid.
post #380 of 740
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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post

$589 is ridiculous enough but $999 is just stupid.

 

Where did you see 999?

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post #382 of 740
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Musicaacoustics site.

http://www.musicaacoustics.com/#!product/prd1/3796089701/pure-ii-%2B

 

welp... talk about shattered dreams...

post #383 of 740
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Originally Posted by utdeep View Post
 

Well, depends on whether you can get a line out with your cell phone.  Otherwise, you are double amping.  This means that you are taking flawed sound from your cell phone and just amplifying it using your Pure II.  

 

Why would you spend $600 on an amp to do that?  You would barely hear the improvement.


It's a lot simpler than that. A lot of line outs are just voltage-limited headphone outputs. 'Line out' is really not an industry standardised term. Some line outs, as in 2009-2012 Sony Walkmans, actually cannot sustain even zero load signals and it is better to amp the headphone output. 

I wrote about that at TouchMyApps re: the Sony A828, but that information is no longer available and I no longer own that Sony. I had measured it to back it up. Alas, gone. 

Amping has many reasons d'etre. Mainly:

1. to get more volume
2. to offload hard drive loads

Either one can benefit from amping no matter the signal (line or headphone out, or other) depending on the amp. If the amp isn't able to drive signals as well as that of the headphone output, it is pointless, and the headphone output should be used in its stead.

post #384 of 740

I thought about that too.  However, as simple as that explanation is, most people who are new to this world won't see that for a little while.  Amplifying bad signals makes more sense than "some headphones require more voltage" at that point.

 

Do I think I would have really noticed that my LCD-X sounded differently from a iPod headphone out than with a good amp when I was still new to this hobby?  Not sure.  However, I certainly noticed that my CD Player line out plus a good amp was better with my Koss KSC 35s than just the headphone out.

 

Only recently have I realized how much voltage some of these headphone require to truly shine.   I've been in this hobby for a very long time :(

post #385 of 740

$999 and two LED lights?  Am I the only one who thinks this could go horribly wrong for Vorzuge?

 

I think the Pure II represents a huge jump in terms of portable amping.  However, the LED is miserably bright.  I can't see much of a potential upgrade in terms of amping.  The source is going to be the weakest link in any portable system that it is in (minus Chord Hugo?  never tried it).  However, two LED lights just doubles up on the worst part of the Vorzuge experience.  When I emailed them about the LED, the company responded with "our customers like to use it as a lamp when the lights go out".  It seemed like they took pride in their $600 accidental night light.

 

Meh, at least it will sound incredible.  I'll have the Portaphile Micro in this week to do a head-to-head.

post #386 of 740
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$999 and two LED lights?  Am I the only one who thinks this could go horribly wrong for Vorzuge?

 

I think the Pure II represents a huge jump in terms of portable amping.  However, the LED is miserably bright.  I can't see much of a potential upgrade in terms of amping.  The source is going to be the weakest link in any portable system that it is in (minus Chord Hugo?  never tried it).  However, two LED lights just doubles up on the worst part of the Vorzuge experience.  When I emailed them about the LED, the company responded with "our customers like to use it as a lamp when the lights go out".  It seemed like they took pride in their $600 accidental night light.

 

Meh, at least it will sound incredible.  I'll have the Portaphile Micro in this week to do a head-to-head.


2 lights will look like a car driving through your room! :D

post #387 of 740
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Originally Posted by utdeep View Post
 

$999 and two LED lights?  Am I the only one who thinks this could go horribly wrong for Vorzuge?

 

I think the Pure II represents a huge jump in terms of portable amping.  However, the LED is miserably bright.  I can't see much of a potential upgrade in terms of amping.  The source is going to be the weakest link in any portable system that it is in (minus Chord Hugo?  never tried it).  However, two LED lights just doubles up on the worst part of the Vorzuge experience.  When I emailed them about the LED, the company responded with "our customers like to use it as a lamp when the lights go out".  It seemed like they took pride in their $600 accidental night light.

 

Meh, at least it will sound incredible.  I'll have the Portaphile Micro in this week to do a head-to-head.

 

Please - love to have your comparison Pure II with Portaphile Micro. 

Seriously considering that one.

post #388 of 740
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Originally Posted by Rumpelstiltskin View Post
 

 

Please - love to have your comparison Pure II with Portaphile Micro. 

Seriously considering that one.


I wrote a little about the two in my review of both the PURE II and Portaphile Micro at headfonia.

post #389 of 740
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I wrote a little about the two in my review of both the PURE II and Portaphile Micro at headfonia.


Cheers Mate.

Highly recommend the reviews to you other Guys.

post #390 of 740
$999 is a hefty price tag. For that money I'd expect it to be competent with hard-to-drive headphones. For IEMs I can't imagine it gets much better than the Pure II.

But I don't understand all the fuss about the light. Is it really such an issue? Personally I don't look at the light when I'm using the Pure II and it doesn't bother me in the slightest.
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