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Need help choosing a Pair of over-ear Headphones and a Soundcard or DAC/AMP Combo.

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 

Hello,

 

I want to build a new PC for gaming and want to upgrade my Headset too. I am using Logitech G35 for a couple of years now and I have read that a Combination of a nice pair of Headphones with a Mic (like the Zalman ZM-MIC1) would be much better and cheaper then buying a Gaming-Headset.

 

There are three Headphones I can't decide between:

Beyerdynamic DT770, 880 and 990 (Pro or Edition?) 250Ohms.

So far I know the DT880 is more the allrounder wich makes it my favourite and the DT990 is more open and has more bass. It doesn't matter if its closed or not, because I will only use it at home with my PC. Thats why the DT770 is not really a choice over the DT990.

The only Difference of the Pro and Edition-Version is, as far as I know, the Contact Pressure, wich is higher with the Pro Version and makes it just a little bit more bass heavy, right?

I think I'll just ordner both as Edition-Versions with 250Ohms and send one of them back.

 

Then there is the big Question: What should I get to drive it. Soundcard or DAC/AMP Combo?

The G35 is a 7.1 Headset and I really like it because in Games (CS:S, CoD, etc.) its important for me to know where my Enemy is. But I read other Posts and watched a YouTube Video where they said that even with a DAC/AMP Combo it is easy to locate Enemys and even some professional Gamers turned the Surround-Effects off because of interference.

I'm not sure about this Dolby Headphone-Feature. Some say it's good, others don't.

And then there are DAC/AMP Combos... Here is what I'm considering:
Asus Xonar Essence STX because of the Dolby-Headphone-Feature or a DAC/AMP Combo in the same Price Range.

The Fiio Olympus E10, I think is a Entry-Level DAC/AMP. Then there is the Audioengine D1 wich is more than double the Price.

The HRT microstreamer, a little bit more expensive than the D1 but people seem to love it, the DragonFly, the Schiit Modi and Magni or the JDS Labs O2+ODAC Combo.

It doesn't need multiple Ouputs and it doesn't need to be portable. I would prefer a USB-powered DAC/AMP Combo.

 

I want to use it for not only gaming, but watching Movies, leaning back and listening to Music (that really depends. I like listening to Metalcore but also enjoy listening to House or something similar).

 

I'm searching for an overall good Audio Experience. I could just order everything and test all Combinations but that would be pretty much.

 

And I'm a little bit on a Budget (around 350-400€). All Headphones are around 190€, the DT770 and 990 Pro 160€, the 880 Pro 220€ (I live in Germany, Price is from Amazon..). The STX is around 150€, the Fiio around 70€, D1 170€, HRT 190€, Dragonfly 200€, JDS 300€. The Schiit isn't avaiable at all.

 

So, whats the most bang for the buck?

 

Thanks in Advance and sorry if the Grammar is a little bit bad at some Point. I'm from Germany and pretty young.


Edited by crystal8194 - 1/5/14 at 10:53am
post #2 of 11

Germany?

I've been to Munich, good beer.

 

AKG K612 Pro headphones with a Creative Labs Sound Blaster Z sound card may make a good combo for you and comes in well under you budget.

post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 

Yes, I visited Munich once, thats true.

So I should get a Soundcard, not a DAC/AMP Combo?

I really put a lot of Effort into it last Night breaking it down to these Models I mentioned.. So you would recommend a DT880 or 990 with a Xonar over the DAC/AMP Combo?

It doesn't really matter if its bit more expensive if it would make a noticable Difference.

 

Long story short: Soundcard or DAC/AMP Combo?

For gaming - the Soundcard but as I said some people don't really like this Dolby-Headphone-Thingie and I don't really feel comfortable with it either.

For Quality - DAC/AMP Combo?

post #4 of 11
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Yes, I visited Munich once, thats true.

So I should get a Soundcard, not a DAC/AMP Combo?

I really put a lot of Effort into it last Night breaking it down to these Models I mentioned.. So you would recommend a DT880 or 990 with a Xonar over the DAC/AMP Combo?

It doesn't really matter if its bit more expensive if it would make a noticable Difference.

 

Long story short: Soundcard or DAC/AMP Combo?

For gaming - the Soundcard but as I said some people don't really like this Dolby-Headphone-Thingie and I don't really feel comfortable with it either.

For Quality - DAC/AMP Combo?

An external DAC/amp is nice, I'm currently replacing my $180 Essence STX with a $300 Audio-GD NFB-15.32 external DAC/Amp.

The NFB-15.32 would cost you over 220 Euros, which would not leave a lot in your budget for headphones.

Where as I'm assuming the Essence STX would cost you around 130 Euros, which leaves you with 170 to 220 euros in your budget for headphones.

Personally, i think you should go for the Essence STX with a DT880 Pro 250-Ohm headphones.

The AKG K612 Pro should also be a good combo, with the STX.

post #5 of 11
Thread Starter 

Ok thank you.

Do you have any Experience with the Dolby-Headphone Feature the STX has?

post #6 of 11
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Originally Posted by crystal8194 View Post
 

Ok thank you.

Do you have any Experience with the Dolby-Headphone Feature the STX has?

To me the STX's Dolby Headphone is fine, but really have only used it for movies, not gaming.

post #7 of 11
Thread Starter 

Thanks alot.

 

I asked Shiit if they ship the Magni and Modi Combo to Germany. Hopefully they do.

I know that will be a little bit more than what I expected but I think this is the best Bang for my Bucks. I don't want to buy something less now and see me upgrading later anyway.


Edited by crystal8194 - 1/5/14 at 10:48pm
post #8 of 11
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Thanks alot.

 

I asked Shiit if they ship the Magni and Modi Combo to Germany. Hopefully they do.

I know that will be a little bit more than what I expected but I think this is the best Bang for my Bucks. I don't want to buy something less now and see me upgrading later anyway.

Here is a O2 headphone amplifier (EHP-02) that sell for 99 GBP in the UK.

I've always assumed it's just as good as the Magni, it also comes with a battery so can also be used as a portable.

http://epiphany-acoustics.co.uk/products-page/headphone-amplifiers/ehp-o2-portable-headphone-amplifier/

post #9 of 11
Thread Starter 

That would be great but that's only an AMP if thats correct. I need a DAC/AMP Combo. They have one for 189GBP whats around 220€ + shipping.

I just tested the Surround Sound on my G35, used the Virtual Barbershop. And I liked it a lot more, turned the Surround off.

So I'm really looking forward getting my Hands on the Shiit Combo.

post #10 of 11
I would say 350-400€ is not a limited budget for a headphone if it is used for gaming, movies or music. Yes, famous brands do guarantee the quality at some point. However, you can try Bluedio R2/R+. About US$90, you can already get a nice headphone. http://www.micmc.com/high-quality-bluedio-r-headset-nfc-bluetooth-4-0.html

 

And I'm a little bit on a Budget (around 350-400€). All Headphones are around 190€, the DT770 and 990 Pro 160€, the 880 Pro 220€ (I live in Germany, Price is from Amazon..). The STX is around 150€, the Fiio around 70€, D1 170€, HRT 190€, Dragonfly 200€, JDS 300€. The Schiit isn't avaiable at all.

 

 

post #11 of 11
Thread Starter 

a quick Update:

 

I had the Chance to compare each Beyer, and I liked the DT990 Edition the most. Now there is only one thing left: the DAC/AMP.

Should I get the Fiio E10 or the Schiit Stack? Is it worth the extra money? Forget about the Budget...

 

Thanks for the replys!

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