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post #91 of 107
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Originally Posted by GoldfishX View Post
 

It's a shame SR80 is probably the highlight of the whole Grado line...

 

It's not.

Rs1 is:dt880smile:.

post #92 of 107
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Originally Posted by kinger2005 View Post
 

I'm not even sure how so many head-fiers hear such large difference on such imbalanced systems. I see so many people on here driving 1800$ cans from 200$s of source equipment, but still tell me that stuff like line conditioning, interconnect quality, and optical media manufacturing process is snake oil, although I hear night and day difference with them.

 

Be glad you don't have to go further down the hole, OP.

"stuff like"...?

"so many"...?

 

Specificity is helpful.

Science is your friend ;).

There are some very knowledgeable folks on the sound science threads.

Recommended reading IMO.

 

There are myths but some things are indeed true...

 

Quality does exist and some of it is expensive and some of it is not.

post #93 of 107
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"stuff like"...?

"so many"...?

 

Specificity is helpful.

Science is your friend ;).

There are some very knowledgeable folks on the sound science threads.

Recommended reading IMO.

 

There are myths but some things are indeed true...

 

Quality does exist and some of it is expensive and some of it is not.

 

 

like?

post #94 of 107
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Originally Posted by reddragon View Post
 

 

 

like?

 

To make it easier for me to respond,

which part of my rant are you referring to?

post #95 of 107
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Originally Posted by reddragon View Post
 

 

 

like?

 

Ok for example regarding specificity:

 

1. There is not one specific product mentioned in post.

    NOT ONE.

 

2. There are big money values mentioned for previously UNMENTIONED products.

 

3. Various references to unmentioned products being connected in an environment where these anonymous items       will apparently always behave some way or another according to the views of ANONYMOUS critics whom are not mentioned.

 

Donut or hole?

post #96 of 107
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Originally Posted by reddragon View Post
 

 

 

like?

 

In the "some of it is not" category:

 

I once(about 2006) had a pair of cheap SONY earbuds with  I got at Kmart for $10 on sale in the "discontinued"

bin that sounded great.I've looked forever after for these (a weird design with this port looking thing on it) on 3 continents and I've never found another like it.

post #97 of 107
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Originally Posted by reddragon View Post
 

 

 

like?

 

 

Maybe value is only measurable by the wishes and expectations of the user, yes?...

post #98 of 107
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Originally Posted by perhapss View Post
 

 

 

Maybe value is only measurable by the wishes and expectations of the user, yes?...

 

Or:

 

Guy 1. I expect to pay $1600 for these headphones but got them for $400: AMAZINGLY CHEAP!!

 

Guy 2. I don't want to spend more than $10 for my headphones: $ 20 is WAY TOO MUCH!!

 

Both guys have different values.

 

Here is an analogy I find interesting:

 

My neighbor(in real life) drives a really expensive Hummer SUV and I drive a cheap korean car.

We both drive the same distance to work and we both get there every day.

He thinks I'm insane to spend $1000 dollars on a pair of headphones.

 

I think my car is awesome quality because I get to work every day just like him.

post #99 of 107
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Originally Posted by perhapss View Post
 

"stuff like"...?

"so many"...?

 

Specificity is helpful.

Science is your friend ;).

There are some very knowledgeable folks on the sound science threads.

Recommended reading IMO.

 

There are myths but some things are indeed true...

 

Quality does exist and some of it is expensive and some of it is not.

Stuff like the 3 things I listed in my post and many more.

So many like gelocks on the front page driving t5ps off of a magni on the front page alpha dog review.

 

I've lurked the science subsection longer than I have the rest of the site. I understand what they're saying, but every opinion is too polarized. Either its complete baloney to them or a game changer. Every little tweak I've stepped into with a notion of skepticism and believed they would do nothing, beause of that subsection, but am proven wrong every time. I'm reluctant to believe that section any more and almost feel sympathy for patrick84 at this point.

 

All I did was tell the OP he should be glad he doesn't have to venture farther down this expensive path. I didn't bring into question if differing quality exists or not.


Edited by kinger2005 - 1/8/14 at 9:38pm
post #100 of 107
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Originally Posted by kinger2005 View Post
 

Stuff like the 3 things I listed in my post and many more.

So many like gelocks on the front page driving t5ps off of a magni on the front page alpha dog review.

 

I've lurked the science subsection longer than I have the rest of the site. I understand what they're saying, but every opinion is too polarized. Either its complete baloney to them or a game changer. Every little tweak I've stepped into with a notion of skepticism and believed they would do nothing, beause of that subsection, but am proven wrong every time. I'm reluctant to believe that section any more and almost feel sympathy for patrick84 at this point.

 

All I did was tell the OP he should be glad he doesn't have to venture farther down this expensive path. I didn't bring into question if differing quality exists or not.

 

Yes.

 

The expensive path is definitely not necessary for MOST people IMO.

post #101 of 107
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Originally Posted by JR4599638 View Post
 

This may seem like the dumbest question on headfi, but seriously, why are some headphones more expensive than others? I have apple headphones that came with my iPhone 5, ws55's, and SRH840's, and I honestly can't tell any significant differences in sound quality. For example, everyone on headfi praises the SRH840's for being revealing, but my apple headphones are just as revealing! I just don't understand why I would pay an additional $170 on SRH840's when I feel that other than features and small specs, they are equal in quality! Is it just me?

Because like open headphones, the Apple Earbuds only sound good in audiophile conditions. The IEM that Apple have that addresses these issues is similarly priced to the Shure SE215. But the Shure SE215 is better considering Apple reputation of reliability issues. 

 

edit: I haven't heard the Shure SRH840, but it's big brother, the Shure SRH 1840 sounds a lot better than the Apple Earbuds that comes with the iPhone 5S when I use them on the same DAC + AMP. But considering that the Apple Earbuds are free, the latest Apple Earbuds sounds really amazing (but better use something like a Shure SE215 since you loose all the sound quality outdoors).


Edited by ubs28 - 1/9/14 at 12:58pm
post #102 of 107
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Because like open headphones, the Apple Earbuds only sound good in audiophile conditions. The IEM that Apple have that addresses these issues is similarly priced to the Shure SE215. But the Shure SE215 is better considering Apple reputation of reliability issues. 

 

edit: I haven't heard the Shure SRH840, but it's big brother, the Shure SRH 1840 sounds a lot better than the Apple Earbuds that comes with the iPhone 5S when I use them on the same DAC + AMP. But considering that the Apple Earbuds are free, the latest Apple Earbuds sounds really amazing (but better use something like a Shure SE215 since you loose all the sound quality outdoors).

 

Kidding me? 

post #103 of 107
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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post
 

 

Two questions:

1) Can we see anything on a new LED TV that is not visible on an old school TV?  

2) Which one do you like more to watch a movie on it?  

 

LED TV                                                                                           Old School TV

   


lol if you play the same movie in ntsc on a crt and in 1080p on a led the diference is BIBLICAL

post #104 of 107

Why are some headphones more expensive than others?  Because I like them more. :cool:

post #105 of 107
I think all of us headphone nerds need to just accept that for a large part of the population, the increase in sound quality between headphones just isn't worth the money. Everyone previewed value differently I guess.
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