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post #331 of 519
How much real development is there for making this DAP or Digital Audio Transport (no amp or DAC) given what Chord already has in their range for streaming etc.? Surely Moores Law also comes in re storage and sending the digital signal should be child's play. Or is that being too simple. How could we contact/discuss with Chord?

Of course what they could also do is go down the Kickstarter / Indiegogo route that LIght Harmonic used. That would save dealer etc costs!

Thanks for the earlier responses - I've been on Head Fi for a while so my wallet has been making lots of apologies already! redface.gif
Edited by pjw241142 - 1/26/14 at 12:14am
post #332 of 519

Hugo, you will be mine...

 

 

"Come into my life, I've got so much luv to show you

Come into my life; I'll open the door for you

.... and I will treat you right...

and I'll show you sweet melodies that you want and need..." :smile:

 

post #333 of 519

Am really curious about how well the Hugo can drive the HD800.. anyone? :popcorn:

post #334 of 519
The Hugo had aptx bluetooth and plays whatever you have at up to 16/44.1.

It drives the HD800.
post #335 of 519
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Originally Posted by NZtechfreak View Post

Incidentally the talk of the Note 3 not being able to do 24-bit without hacking is entirely misinformed. All you need is the app USB Audio Player Pro. Upcoming Android devices like the Z1 Compact will have settings to specifically allow 24-bit output to external DACs.

I wonder how good the bluetooth implementation is on the Hugo? If it's good enough on Apt-X capable devices you could simply plug in a 1+TB drive directly into the Note 3 USB port...

I'm getting an SD to micro SD adapter soon to use with the Note 3, will be using with a 128gb card (or possibly even a 256gb SD card, if I feel like splurging).

- Will be very interested to have feedback of your experience with the Note3 + 128Gb (or 256Gb SD) external.  This will make the Note 3 a perfect Transport solution for the HUGO.

 

- It is a Very good idea to try if Hugo can stream High-Res by bluetooth, without downsampling, from the Note 3. But... does the Note 3 is also able to SEND High-Res files by bluetooth without downsampling :-)

 

- What is the "Z1 Compact" ? Isn't it rather the Sony Xperia Sirius D6503 that you mean ? It will indeed offer Audio USB output to DAC :

 


Edited by bmichels - 1/26/14 at 1:36am
post #336 of 519
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Originally Posted by smial1966 View Post

What is interesting is that Chord (via it's dealers) have had 4,000 pre-orders for Hugo. At £1,195 RRP in the UK per unit, multiplied by 4,000, this equals £4,780,000. Which is still likely to be a substantial amount of money for Chord even after production costs and dealer markup are deducted. So given this massive buy-in by consumers for a product as yet untested by end users, surely Chord can spot the potential market for an audiophile DAP that has the same form factor as Hugo. A basic compatible DAP without amplifier stripped down to deliver Hi-Res music files with an internal battery would surely sell to at least... 4,000+ customers.

 

So, let's all of us write to CHORD to say that we want bad a " portable-battery operated transport of the same size than the hugo, with a BIG 5" screen,  BIG battery, perfect playlist management and 512 Gb capacity + a SD slot (not MicroSD)". 

 

Stacked together with the HUGO they will make a wonderful complete "trans-portable" solution !  

post #337 of 519

Right - I have written to Chord ( info@chordelectronics.co.uk ) as follows: 

 

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Subject: Suggestion for Portable Digital Transport to accompany Chord Hugo
Date: 26 January 2014 10:05:43 GMT
To: info@chordelectronics.co.uk

 

Dear Sirs, 

I am not sure if you are following this thread on Head-Fi (especially pages 20 to 23): 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/698455/chord-hugo-preview-report

But there is considerable interest & orders (I ordered yesterday from Custom Cable in the UK) in the Chord Hugo. Being audiophiles Head-Fiers always want the perfect solution to match DAC/Amps with the best quality input. There are a number of compromises with DAPs like the AK120, HM-901, Fiio X5 etc & linking these to the Chord Hugo. Our humble suggestion is that Chord should look at a matching Portable Digital Transport with lots of (expandable) capacity as we believe that this is a niche in the market that is not well covered at the moment & it has been highlighted by the ground-breaking Hugo. 

Doubtless this may seem like a big risk for Chord BUT: 

1. Chord is already taking a risk with the Hugo. With over 4k pre-orders that looks like a sensible risk to have taken…..
2. If Chord want to enter the consumer market and provide something different to those around, the sensible route is via a Portable Transport to match the Hugo. If it was like the Hugo you could use it in a static rig as well. That would be VERY convenient
3. There is a market there. The AK240 will retail at over £2k in the UK & say USD2,300 in the US & people will buy this (not that I am asking for a Transport at that price…)
4. Chord has experience in this area with Streaming etc
5. One way of mitigating the risk would be to look at Crowdfunding via Kickstarter/Indiegogo (cash up front & reduced distribution/dealer costs)
6. Head-Fiers (especially in the UK) would be very happy to do beta testing on the unit

Clearly Chord has to run its own business but having a portable digital transport that could also be in a fixed rig would be a very logical next step. 

I'd be grateful if you could let me know your thoughts & there will be other Head Fiers writing to you in due course…..
post #338 of 519
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Originally Posted by pjw241142 View Post
 

Right - I have written to Chord ( info@chordelectronics.co.uk ) as follows: 

 

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Subject: Suggestion for Portable Digital Transport to accompany Chord Hugo
Date: 26 January 2014 10:05:43 GMT
To: info@chordelectronics.co.uk

 

Dear Sirs, 

I am not sure if you are following this thread on Head-Fi (especially pages 20 to 23): 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/698455/chord-hugo-preview-report

But there is considerable interest & orders (I ordered yesterday from Custom Cable in the UK) in the Chord Hugo. Being audiophiles Head-Fiers always want the perfect solution to match DAC/Amps with the best quality input. There are a number of compromises with DAPs like the AK120, HM-901, Fiio X5 etc & linking these to the Chord Hugo. Our humble suggestion is that Chord should look at a matching Portable Digital Transport with lots of (expandable) capacity as we believe that this is a niche in the market that is not well covered at the moment & it has been highlighted by the ground-breaking Hugo. 

Doubtless this may seem like a big risk for Chord BUT: 

1. Chord is already taking a risk with the Hugo. With over 4k pre-orders that looks like a sensible risk to have taken…..
2. If Chord want to enter the consumer market and provide something different to those around, the sensible route is via a Portable Transport to match the Hugo. If it was like the Hugo you could use it in a static rig as well. That would be VERY convenient
3. There is a market there. The AK240 will retail at over £2k in the UK & say USD2,300 in the US & people will buy this (not that I am asking for a Transport at that price…)
4. Chord has experience in this area with Streaming etc
5. One way of mitigating the risk would be to look at Crowdfunding via Kickstarter/Indiegogo (cash up front & reduced distribution/dealer costs)
6. Head-Fiers (especially in the UK) would be very happy to do beta testing on the unit

Clearly Chord has to run its own business but having a portable digital transport that could also be in a fixed rig would be a very logical next step. 

I'd be grateful if you could let me know your thoughts & there will be other Head Fiers writing to you in due course…..

 

 

Wonderful. +1. I hope they will just do it, keep it simple, functioning, around 0.5 or 1 TB capacity. It doesn't even need to be expensive either, heck even X5 costs 350 bucks.

post #339 of 519
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Originally Posted by bmichels View Post
 

 

So, let's all of us write to CHORD to say that we want bad a " portable-battery operated transport of the same size than the hugo, with a BIG 5" screen,  BIG battery, perfect playlist management and 512 Gb capacity + a SD slot (not MicroSD)". 

 

Stacked together with the HUGO they will make a wonderful complete "trans-portable" solution !  

 

Good move  AmberOzL 

In addition to  info@chordelectronics.co.uk    you can also CC to  Colin Pratt ( Colin@Chordelectronics.co.uk ) , the guy that answered me that CHORD has no interest in building a transport for the HUGO.

post #340 of 519
I can understand why chord might not want go into DAP''s. A lot of the costs probably goes into memory and user interface hardware and software design. Memory/storge is changing rapidly in price, performance and capabilities. As for UI, getting decent hardware specially at low volumes is going to be difficult and costly. Dabbling in control software is not as simple as it seems either - just ask PS Audio.

So quite a few hurdles for them. I have every confidence that they CAN overcome all obstacles if they choose to, i'm just putting out reasons why they might not wish to.
post #341 of 519

If they don't bring anything, I am gonna be the happiest chap with the X5, I have no complaints.

 

If they bring something (let's say 1tb storage, folder view, gapless playback, no laggy UI, either touch screen or physical controls), I would like to see how it performs, considering that they will do it to match with Hugo, I am sure it would have a lot of buyers and users.

post #342 of 519

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Edited by seeteeyou - 11/4/14 at 9:13pm
post #343 of 519
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Originally Posted by pjw241142 View Post
 

Right - I have written to Chord ( info@chordelectronics.co.uk ) as follows: 

 

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Clearly Chord has to run its own business but having a portable digital transport that could also be in a fixed rig would be a very logical next step. 
 

 

good luck with that email but I believe Chord have already answered the question... you can connect via any phone, DAP, idevice or Laptop/PC it appears so why do they need to go into a field that is pretty much covered by most devices of personal choice?.. I'm more  than happy to buy a bit of 'proper' hi-end that connects to a menagerie of things.

post #344 of 519
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Originally Posted by bmichels View Post
 

 What is the "Z1 Compact" ? Isn't it rather the Sony Xperia Sirius D6503 that you mean ? It will indeed offer Audio USB output to DAC

 

Sony Z1 is a phone with some Walkman workings inside... the ZX1 is a Walkman which has the HX S-Master amp not found in a Sony phone.

post #345 of 519
Evidently there's still demand for a basic DAP without an amp or DAC, so irrespective of what's currently available, Chord are definitely missing potential sales by discounting our request. Hopefully some tech savvy company will latch on to this idea and start a Kickstarter or Indiegogo project.

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Originally Posted by OK-Guy View Post

good luck with that email but I believe Chord have already answered the question... you can connect via any phone, DAP, idevice or Laptop/PC it appears so why do they need to go into a field that is pretty much covered by most devices of personal choice?.. I'm more  than happy to buy a bit of 'proper' hi-end that connects to a menagerie of things.
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