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post #1 of 19
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Hey there,

 

I've been using bookshelf speakers with my PC for years.  But now I'm rearranging my living room and to make a long story short, my stereo receiver has to go.  Years ago I guess I needed such a setup, as I also had a cd player, was listening to radio, was plugged in my PC, but now I have a multi-source receiver plainly just connected to one source: my PC...this kinda negates the need to have this receiver.  I would now want to replace all this by a nice set of self-amped speakers or monitors.

 

Here's my current setup:

 

PC -> Edirol UA-5 USB audio interface -> Integra DT-something receiver (dating about 2006) -> B&W 600i speakers (about 15 years old)

 

This is mostly for casual use: playing games (FPS) a few times a week, music (mostly metal, all kinds of), and watching videos.  Just to make it clear, I don't want any crap from Logitech and the like.  I want some good bottom end, just not too much as I live in an appartment (bass driver should be a minimum of 5", but I think 8" would be preferred). A subwoofer is out of the question.  When I'm saying "speakers", I don't want to limit myself and might also want to go with monitors.

 

In fact, I've been reading alot on M-Audio's BX8 D2's and I find that they could be a good buy.  Decent lows with the 8" drivers, flat response curve but not too flat.  Some people more or less complain of the hum issue they have, but since I wouldn't be using those for studio work, I guess I wouldn't mind so much.

 

But I don't want to put all my eggs in the same basket here, and would definately like some suggestions!  Any ideas?

 

EDIT: I would also have to point out that they should not be rear-ported as they will be located about 2-3 inches from a wall...


Edited by Lightpsycho - 1/4/14 at 2:07pm
post #2 of 19

Look into KRK RP series monitors, they recently launched the 3rd gen models I have only heard the 2nd gen and they are more than adequate for a small/medium room.

 

Also I was recently impressed with the Tannoy 601a active monitors, only had a brief listen but felt they were good value.

 

Other brands worth considering are ADAM, Mackie and Yamaha if you are looking for active monitors.

 

Out of interest I have also heard of multiple issues with the BX8's from noise floor issues to short life span of the amp's, however this is not from personal experience more forums reading over the last few years.  I know some people have been more than happy also, so it could be more than the speakers at fault such as the source or the user.

 

HTH

 

EDIT:- I should add that its never wise to buy anything without listening first, or with a no fee returns policy.   Check for a local supplier and try to get a demo set up 


Edited by Tablix - 1/4/14 at 1:11pm
post #3 of 19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tablix View Post
 

Look into KRK RP series monitors, they recently launched the 3rd gen models I have only heard the 2nd gen and they are more than adequate for a small/medium room.

 

Also I was recently impressed with the Tannoy 601a active monitors, only had a brief listen but felt they were good value.

 

Other brands worth considering are ADAM, Mackie and Yamaha if you are looking for active monitors.

 

Out of interest I have also heard of multiple issues with the BX8's from noise floor issues to short life span of the amp's, however this is not from personal experience more forums reading over the last few years.  I know some people have been more than happy also, so it could be more than the speakers at fault such as the source or the user.

 

HTH

 

EDIT:- I should add that its never wise to buy anything without listening first, or with a no fee returns policy.   Check for a local supplier and try to get a demo set up 

 

Hey thanks for the info.  I didn't know that the BX8s had those other issues as well...I'll be looking into that.  You also reminded me that I should really be listening to what I want to buy first, especially since I live in Canada and want to buy from the US...!  Shipping back 50 pounds of speakers ain't exactly cheap...

post #4 of 19
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OK, so taking my budget and requirements (8" driver) into consideration, I've narrowed down my choices to:

 

- Mackie MR8mk2

and

- KRK Rokit 8 G3

 

Anybody has experience with them?  The KRKs is front-ported whereas the Mackies are rear-ported, and the speakers would practically be sitting right in front of a wall, 3 inches away...My educated guess is that I should not go with a rear-ported cabinet, would this apply in my case?

post #5 of 19

I haven't heard either of those. But in case you didn't know already, 8" monitors are HUGE. Make sure you have the space for them.

 

If you did know that.. don't mind me :)

post #6 of 19

If you plan to place them close to a wall then you definitely dont want rear ported design, I have a very close friend that works with RP6's and a sub and they work just fine on a desk almost against the wall in a similar situation.

 

While shopping it may be worth looking for some second generation models to save some money, the G3 is 3rd gen so if you look for items marked G2 you will be looking at the slightly older model, only replaced mid 2013.  I found an ebay seller offering some in the UK at less than half the original retail price.

post #7 of 19
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Originally Posted by Tablix View Post

If you plan to place them close to a wall then you definitely dont want rear ported design, I have a very close friend that works with RP6's and a sub and they work just fine on a desk almost against the wall in a similar situation.

While shopping it may be worth looking for some second generation models to save some money, the G3 is 3rd gen so if you look for items marked G2 you will be looking at the slightly older model, only replaced mid 2013.  I found an ebay seller offering some in the UK at less than half the original retail price.

Yeah after my last post I read that a rule of thumb is to let at the very least 3X the port's diameter of clearance behind the speaker (which would equal to 6 inches for the Mackies). Unfortunately I don't think I have the space...it's a shame because I could have them discounted at 455$CAN a pair...

It's strange but here in Canada, G2s and G3s are being sold at the exact same price...! So fore sure I would be going with the latest gen.

Have you heard about Presonus' Eris E8? Some people have been saying that they're tighter sounding than the Mackies MR8mk3. And, they're front ported =)
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Originally Posted by GaryWA View Post

I haven't heard either of those. But in case you didn't know already, 8" monitors are HUGE. Make sure you have the space for them.

If you did know that.. don't mind me smily_headphones1.gif

Yeah...I'm reading the specs for each speaker I investigate on, and I'm beginning to notice they're big hehe. But not that much bigger than my B&W bookshelf speakers (about 1-2 inch wider and deeper).
post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by Lightpsycho View Post


Yeah after my last post I read that a rule of thumb is to let at the very least 3X the port's diameter of clearance behind the speaker (which would equal to 6 inches for the Mackies). Unfortunately I don't think I have the space...it's a shame because I could have them discounted at 455$CAN a pair...

It's strange but here in Canada, G2s and G3s are being sold at the exact same price...! So fore sure I would be going with the latest gen.

Have you heard about Presonus' Eris E8? Some people have been saying that they're tighter sounding than the Mackies MR8mk3. And, they're front ported =)
Yeah...I'm reading the specs for each speaker I investigate on, and I'm beginning to notice they're big hehe. But not that much bigger than my B&W bookshelf speakers (about 1-2 inch wider and deeper).

 

they're are quite a few audio shops in canada, so if you live near one of the big cities, you should be able to find one

 

interesting about the rear port 3x diameter clearance

from the couple posts ive read, people have been suggesting 3 inches from speakers to wall should be enough?

a popular one recently are the jbl lsr 305/308 speakers (in your price range) but they're rear ported

surprisingly for me, rokits arent liked very much on other forums

 

regarding size, i didnt realize how big they were until i saw them in person

they are vastly bigger than 5 inch speakers, they're might be some videos on youtube to give you an idea

post #9 of 19

I just bought Bose Companion 20.

This has super clarity and super bass in 2.0 setup, better bass than I had heard in subwoofers.

It sounds like high class Sennheiser.

post #10 of 19
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OK well I went at Moog Audio, a local pro audio store here in Montreal, Quebec, Canada.  I asked to listen to JBL LSR308, KRK rokit 8 AND 6, and Presonus Eris E8.

 

My impressions:

 

- Presonus Eris 8: quite sterile.  Maybe somewhat good for studio work, but not my cup of tea as far as listening goes.  Lacks bottom-end.

 

- JBL LSR 308: Good, but doesn't have all the thumping bottom that the KRK has!  Plus, for 300$CAN each, it's severely overpriced for its sound, and especially build quality.  Those things barely weight 15 pounds!!!

 

- KRK Rokit 8: Very nice!  Moves a good amount of air in the sub-bass territory, yet is pretty clean-sounding, or so I think.

 

- KRK Rokit 6: Very nice as well.  Not that much of low-end is lost over the 8".  Pretty decent and more affordable.

 

OK so as GaryWA mentionned, 8" monitors are indeed HUGE.  I was reading the measurements in the specs online and I was like, "OK", but when I actually saw them, especially the KRKs....I was rather like "uh...ooookay."  Not that much of a problem for me but, it seems the woman of the house didn't really approve the X2 increase of space that those would take up on our work desk.  :ph34r: And actually she doesn't want to them to be any bigger than my B&W, as long as we live in an appartment alas.

 

BUT...the sales guy, who also happens to be a sound engineer, showed me another set which is (also) a lil bit over my price bracket: the ADAM F5.  I was like "Man, those are 5 inches. How's the frequency response in the lower-end?".  He says 52Hz.  Did a playback test on those as well and I was blown away.  Never did I think that I would hesitate between the sound of an 8" monitor (the KRKs) and a 5".  Because of their small footprint, overall clarity/sound quality, bass response, and brand reputation, I think I will go with these.  The KRKs feel as if there was a veil over the mids and low-mids compared to those.  Its a bit of a forced choice, because of size limitations, but certainly NOT a bad one though!  They're 3$ less than the Rokit 8, btw.

 

Any last opinions regarding this choice?

post #11 of 19

I can certainly agree your choice on ADAM's I have been using the A7x for 2 years.  I have not got round to listening to the F series as my local supplier doesnt stock them for some reason, according to soundonsound reviews  of the F7 they get really good comments regarding tonality and detail.  http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun13/articles/adam-f7.htm

 

Worth also noting there is a F Sub should you want a bit more bass extension, in the future.

post #12 of 19
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Originally Posted by Tablix View Post
 

I can certainly agree your choice on ADAM's I have been using the A7x for 2 years.  I have not got round to listening to the F series as my local supplier doesnt stock them for some reason, according to soundonsound reviews  of the F7 they get really good comments regarding tonality and detail.  http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun13/articles/adam-f7.htm

 

Worth also noting there is a F Sub should you want a bit more bass extension, in the future.

 

Yes, I noticed the F Sub when I visited ADAM'S website, and I also found the review for the F5 on SOS' website.  At 400$CAN the SubF, it's not too expensive and still an outstanding product.

 

I'm pretty eager to get them (most likely Friday)!

post #13 of 19

thanks for the impressions

 

there arent too many comparisons between the adam f5 and the jbl lsr305 but others have been favoring the JBL

post #14 of 19
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Well it's 2:55AM here in eastern Canada and I just plugged in my F5s...I'm flabberghasted.  Even at low volume, the soundstage on those babies is just outta this world and the bass is so punchy for 5" drivers, I just can't believe it!!!  Listening to those also made me realize that 8" monitors would've been way too huge/powerful for the room they're located in (which is about 10-12 feet in depth, behind me).

 

I am TOTALLY satisfied! :veryevil:

post #15 of 19

Would you say the Adam F5's are significantly better than the KRK's? Trying to justify the higher price tag of the Adam F5's over the KRK's..

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