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Ok, got my IEM's, now got the bug and want some full sized cans :)

post #1 of 15
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Been doing a lot of reading the last couple days but still can't narrow down things.  I've been thinking of getting a dedicated set of full size headphones for listening.  Right now my setup is my PC with an HT Omega Claro soundcard which has a built in headphone amp (up to 600ohm) with swappable opamps though I haven't changed out the stock ones.  Music is a combination of lossless rips of my CD's and music purchases through Microsoft's old Zune subscription service which means a combination of mp3's (256k I believe) and a few odd .wma's depending on the artist.  Right now I'm listening with a Sennheiser PC-350 headset (150ohm).

 

So far I've been looking at either the Beyer DT770 or DT880, Audio Technica AD900x, and because I've liked my Sennheiser PC-350 so far I was wondering about the HD558 or 598.  I definitely need over the ear circumaural style.  I can NOT wear on the ear style.  My left ear sticks out a little more than the right and for whatever reason gets really sore after just 10-15 minutes of wearing an on ear style headphone on it.

 

The music I listen to mainly is hard rock & heavy metal with bands like Metallica, Megadeth, In Flames, Black Label Society, Five Finger Death Punch, Halestorm.  Also occasionally I'll throw in some Motorhead, ZZ Top, Joe Satriani, and something crazy like some BB King or Stevie Ray Vaughn style stuff.  I plan to continue using the PC with the HT Omega as a headphone amp for now, but at some point I need to replace the PC (going on 4 years old) and new boards won't support the HT Omega.  I think for the price of replacing it with their newer cards that will work in a new PC I will instead probably end up with the Schiit Magni/Modi combo.

post #2 of 15

You should consider adding Philips Fidelio X1 to the list too! Theyre price has dropped quite significantly, but theyre just wonderfully good sounding cans.

post #3 of 15
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Thanks for the info, those Phillips look really interesting.  Any input on the others I've mentioned?  They all seemed to get good reviews but I'm not sure about which one(s) (if any) would actually be suitable for my main music listening styles (I know I shouldn't try to find one that will do it all since I have some pretty wide swings in music taste).

post #4 of 15

Unfortunately its been a LONG time since ive had the chance to hear the beyer 770, 880, and the sennheiser 598.

 

I do remember that the bass was a little messy for me in the 770s. That's the only real feedback i can give.

post #5 of 15
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No problem, thanks for the info.  Hopefully someone else can chime in on the rest :)

post #6 of 15
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Anyone else have any info or suggestions?  I can't seem to find any of these locally to go listen to before buying.

post #7 of 15
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Bump?  I think I'm knocking the DT770 off the list.  While I like good solid bass, I think I'm trying to get into more natural/accurate sounding headphones vs. heavily V shaped profiles which it sounds like the DT770's are.  Thinking of upping the price range after seeing HE-400's really recommended for the music style too but not sure if they will expose too many flaws in my sources.

post #8 of 15
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Ok I think I've narrowed my list down, but really could still use some advice on picking one to jump in on....

 

ATH-AD900X

DT880 in either 250 or 600ohm (not quite sure on the difference in sound between the two)

HD-600

 

The comments about the weight of the HE-400's and that causing some fitment issues which in turn cause lack of bass response in some cases due to poor fit have thrown me off them for now.  I contemplated DT990's but I think I should go with something more flat/neutral first instead of grabbing a set of "fun" cans for my main ones.

post #9 of 15
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Bump......anyone?

post #10 of 15

Have you looked at other closed headphones, besides the DT770?  Given your listening tastes, closed might give you more smack.  Ultrasone will give you a nice bass pounding.


Edited by pataburd - 1/10/14 at 12:53pm
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by pataburd View Post
 

Have you looked at other closed headphones, besides the DT770?  Given your listening tastes, closed might give you more smack.  Ultrasone will give you a nice bass pounding.

 

Hmmm, not sure I'm liking the reviews on those, well looking in the Headphone Buying Guide at the two models for Ultrasone listed in the 150-300 category (none in the 300-500 and anything more than 500 is out of my price range right now).  However I just realized something while searching for reviews again on the 770.  My local Guitar Center apparently has both the 80 ohm DT770 and the 250 ohm DT880 in stock.  I know what I'm doing this weekend :D

post #12 of 15
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Ok I think I'm narrowed down.  I listened to the 80ohm DT770 and the 250ohm DT880 today.  I had to use my phone because they couldn't get their equipment to put out any sound to the headphones ("pro audio" section of a Guitar Center).  Anyway, even knowing that the 880 was harder to drive, I still liked the overall sound better.  I could really tell the difference between the open & closed sound and I much preferred the 880 in this case.  I still can't find anywhere local to try the Audio Technica AD900X's though.  I'm hoping someone can give some input on the DT880 vs. the AD900X.  I'd probably go with the 250ohm DT880.  I can supposedly drive up to 600ohm with my soundcard's built in headphone amp, but I'm not sure if it's "worth it".  I'm open to advice on that though.

post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by flyinion View Post
 

Ok I think I'm narrowed down.  I listened to the 80ohm DT770 and the 250ohm DT880 today.  I had to use my phone because they couldn't get their equipment to put out any sound to the headphones ("pro audio" section of a Guitar Center).  Anyway, even knowing that the 880 was harder to drive, I still liked the overall sound better.  I could really tell the difference between the open & closed sound and I much preferred the 880 in this case.  I still can't find anywhere local to try the Audio Technica AD900X's though.  I'm hoping someone can give some input on the DT880 vs. the AD900X.  I'd probably go with the 250ohm DT880.  I can supposedly drive up to 600ohm with my soundcard's built in headphone amp, but I'm not sure if it's "worth it".  I'm open to advice on that though.

So you have decided to go with a semi-open pair.

 

The DT880 Premium/600 might be worth the listen (if you can audition one).  IMHO, the DT880 Premium/250 (2005) sounded confined overall and brittle in the upper treble compared with the 600 ohm version.  

 

For me, though, the discontinued DT880 Pro/250 ohm/2003 version were the best DT880 of them all.   

 

 

Note the flat outer edge of the DT880 Pro, circa 2003.

 

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Note the more rounded outer edge of the DT880 Premium (circa 2005).

The DT880 Premium/600 looks exactly like the 250.


Edited by pataburd - 1/14/14 at 12:59pm
post #14 of 15
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So you have decided to go with a semi-open pair.

 

The DT880 Premium/600 might be worth the listen (if you can audition one).  IMHO, the DT880 Premium/250 (2005) sounded confined overall and brittle in the upper treble compared with the 600 ohm version.  

 

For me, though, the discontinued DT880 Pro/250 ohm/2003 version were the best DT880 of them all.   

 

 

 

Oh interesting.  Well I'm definitely not opposed to the 600 ohm version.  As I said, supposedly my soundcard's headphone amp can drive up to 600ohm.  If anything I could just go grab a Schiit Magni to drive it I'm guessing.  Hmmm, so it was actually the Pro 250 that I listened to in the store (coiled cord, the same headband as above in your picture, etc.).  I hadn't planned on it though, some of the reviews talked about the band fitting a bit tight.  I guess I assumed both 250ohm versions would be the same.  The reviews and forum threads I read pretty much said that the only difference was the cosmetic stuff but maybe that was incorrect?

post #15 of 15
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Originally Posted by flyinion View Post
 

 

Oh interesting.  Well I'm definitely not opposed to the 600 ohm version.  As I said, supposedly my soundcard's headphone amp can drive up to 600ohm.  If anything I could just go grab a Schiit Magni to drive it I'm guessing.  Hmmm, so it was actually the Pro 250 that I listened to in the store (coiled cord, the same headband as above in your picture, etc.).  I hadn't planned on it though, some of the reviews talked about the band fitting a bit tight.  I guess I assumed both 250ohm versions would be the same.  The reviews and forum threads I read pretty much said that the only difference was the cosmetic stuff but maybe that was incorrect?

Note in my previous post (now updated) that the DT880 Premium/250 have a slightly rounded outer edge to their cups, while the DT880 Pro have a flatter outer edge to their cups.

   

That issue--DT880Premium 250 vs. DT880 Premium 600--has been debated, but most Premium 600 users stand by their convictions that the 600 ohm version is superior.  For me, the DT880 Premium/250 was a huge disappointment compared to their predecessor (the DT880Pro.circa 2003).  I was one of those who markedly preferred the DT880 Premium/600 to the Premium 250.

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