Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Apr 29, 2016 at 10:13 AM Post #10,921 of 63,643
http://www.head-fi.org/t/806634/kz-ed-special-edition-vs-ve-monk
 
Anyone familiar with both Monks (or other cheap chinese earbud) and KZ - care to give your opinion. Yeah, obviously IEM and earbuds dont directly can be compared but there might be someone on the verge of buying either one as a portable listening gear and dont mind isolation capabilities. When I asked in Monk thread the reception was sour at least to say 
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. I am actually curious if there are people who find Monks better when comparing side-by-side.
 
Apr 29, 2016 at 10:17 AM Post #10,922 of 63,643
  http://www.head-fi.org/t/806634/kz-ed-special-edition-vs-ve-monk
 
Anyone familiar with both Monks (or other cheap chinese earbud) and KZ - care to give your opinion. Yeah, obviously IEM and earbuds dont directly can be compared but there might be someone on the verge of buying either one as a portable listening gear and dont mind isolation capabilities. When I asked in Monk thread the reception was sour at least to say 
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. I am actually curious if there are people who find Monks better when comparing side-by-side.


If isolation is not an issue for you go Monks, my choice if you go KZ iem would be the ED9 over the SE but then again that is really just my preference as I think the ED9 will be closer to the Monk than the SE. Not sure if I helped you at all but shopped out both could be had under $20 on AliEx
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Apr 29, 2016 at 12:37 PM Post #10,923 of 63,643
I own 2 Monk+ and 5 original Monks so I am not asking purchase advice for myself, I am actually asking how many of you find Monks better sounding as in my opinion KZ EDSE are loads better. But thats just my opinion. Hope my ED9´s arrive soon 8)
 
Apr 29, 2016 at 12:45 PM Post #10,924 of 63,643
So.... after a long period of listening my ears and the tips very moist (wax).
What is you way of making this "problem" manageable?
 
I take them off, clean my ear with a Q-tip when I'm at home, and the moist ear tip on my pants...
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There is some moisture inside the earphone tip also which a wipe with some un-wound (thin) Q-tip.
 
Apr 29, 2016 at 12:45 PM Post #10,925 of 63,643
  I own 2 Monk+ and 5 original Monks so I am not asking purchase advice for myself, I am actually asking how many of you find Monks better sounding as in my opinion KZ EDSE are loads better. But thats just my opinion. Hope my ED9´s arrive soon 8)


Sorry I miss-understood your question before foba
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For me they are a totally different listening experience in a non-isolating ear bud and a iem which seals. They are also used by me in very different settings, I may listen to my monks while in my office without really any kind of outside interference/noise and my iem's are for more noisy environments where I need seal.
 
Now with that said I find both my Monks and my ED9's to sound excellent for their purposes. Don't so much think either is better than the other just a different listening experience. Probably still not much help!
 
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Apr 29, 2016 at 10:07 PM Post #10,926 of 63,643
  Guys, aren`t Your problem related to nozzle mesh grills getting jammed with earwax or dust? If You dare, remove them. Been using my ATE long time without grills and no issues with wax/dust getting into (I clean my ears regularly and keep IEM`s in case). But yeh, my ATE FF-mod has totally different nozzles anyway. Maybe this issue can be somehow from driver flex?
I remember some days when I pushed ATE into ear and sound got little "dull" but after re-inserting it went away.


Now that you mention it. I just took a picture with my macro lens and this is what the grill looks like:
 

 
I do not know if that is ear wax or glue residues from the factory, probably both. What do you think doctor?
Do you think this is the culprit for the ATE's losing its mojo?
 
I do not dare to remove the grill. What if the earwax falls directly into the diaphragm? 
Do you think I can just puncture the grill with a very sharp needle to reopen the holes?
 
Thanks.
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Apr 30, 2016 at 1:26 AM Post #10,927 of 63,643
Now that you mention it. I just took a picture with my macro lens and this is what the grill looks like:




I do not know if that is ear wax or glue residues from the factory, probably both. What do you think doctor?
Do you think this is the culprit for the ATE's losing its mojo?

I do not dare to remove the grill. What if the earwax falls directly into the diaphragm? 
Do you think I can just puncture the grill with a very sharp needle to reopen the holes?

Thanks.
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Me see no harm in removing the grill ....imho TIP ROLLING makes a big difference ...
 
Apr 30, 2016 at 4:32 AM Post #10,928 of 63,643
After 200 hours of Wax-In you definitely gonna' lose some treble.
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This wax starts as watery condensation in the outer ear canal from a special gland and solidifies, you should clean your ears and earphones as often as you can.
By the way, I found that if you have something in the ear (like earphones ) more wax is produced to get rid of the foreign object.
http://kidshealth.org/en/kids/earwax.html
 
Apr 30, 2016 at 4:48 AM Post #10,929 of 63,643
I must say that I hardly have any earwax problems but I'm also using tri-flangles that sit deep in the ear. I love how these combine with the ATE and give a great seal (really getting that sub-bass), got used to them during my Etymotic use. They may not solve an earwax problem but it seems to me that the longer tip might keep the nozzle clean. Might be a thing to try out as these tips can be bought easily on AliExpress for a little price in all variations (I'm using the big ones like these:)
 

 
Apr 30, 2016 at 9:38 AM Post #10,930 of 63,643
I must say that I hardly have any earwax problems but I'm also using tri-flangles that sit deep in the ear. I love how these combine with the ATE and give a great seal (really getting that sub-bass), got used to them during my Etymotic use. They may not solve an earwax problem but it seems to me that the longer tip might keep the nozzle clean. Might be a thing to try out as these tips can be bought easily on AliExpress for a little price in all variations (I'm using the big ones like these:)





Would you mind linking the aliexpress store that sells them?
 
Apr 30, 2016 at 9:51 AM Post #10,931 of 63,643
  After 200 hours of Wax-In you definitely gonna' lose some treble.
ksc75smile.gif

 
This wax starts as watery condensation in the outer ear canal from a special gland and solidifies, you should clean your ears and earphones as often as you can.
By the way, I found that if you have something in the ear (like earphones ) more wax is produced to get rid of the foreign object.
http://kidshealth.org/en/kids/earwax.html

I clean my ears 2-5 times a day
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Apr 30, 2016 at 11:57 AM Post #10,932 of 63,643
  http://www.head-fi.org/t/806634/kz-ed-special-edition-vs-ve-monk
 
Anyone familiar with both Monks (or other cheap chinese earbud) and KZ - care to give your opinion. Yeah, obviously IEM and earbuds dont directly can be compared but there might be someone on the verge of buying either one as a portable listening gear and dont mind isolation capabilities. When I asked in Monk thread the reception was sour at least to say 
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. I am actually curious if there are people who find Monks better when comparing side-by-side.

I have both the KZ-ATE and the Monk and feel that I enjoy the Monk a lot more.  The KZ-ATE is a little too warm for my taste, while the Monk has such superb clarity and soundstage.  Ultimately, we're comparing apples to oranges since one is IEM and the other earbud, and I'm also biased towards earbuds, as I don't like the plugging feeling of pressure in my ear from an IEM.
 
Apr 30, 2016 at 12:39 PM Post #10,933 of 63,643
I have both the KZ-ATE and the Monk and feel that I enjoy the Monk a lot more.  The KZ-ATE is a little too warm for my taste, while the Monk has such superb clarity and soundstage.  Ultimately, we're comparing apples to oranges since one is IEM and the other earbud, and I'm also biased towards earbuds, as I don't like the plugging feeling of pressure in my ear from an IEM.
the sound of Monk is better than any Kz iems in my opinion
 
Apr 30, 2016 at 12:47 PM Post #10,935 of 63,643
Would you mind linking the aliexpress store that sells them?

Sure. I didn't buy the ones that I posted, it was meant as an example for the kind of tips I meant. I did order these ones: 
 
http://nl.aliexpress.com/store/product/Replacement-Earbuds-Ear-Tips-Set-For-Monster-Beats-UrBeats-HeartBeats-Lady-Gaga-Diddy-Beats-Turbine-Pro/1132091_32483579371.html
 
They really fit my KZ Ate's very well, giving a great fit and seal:
 

 

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